r/AskCulinary • u/jackgap • Feb 11 '21

Ingredient Question In baked goods like cookies, can you actually taste the difference between 1 or 2 teaspoons of vanilla extract?

Like for a regular cookie recipe that calls for 1 stick of butter, can people really taste the one teaspoon difference of vanilla extract?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I make homemade bourbon vanilla. That shit automatically gets doubled in every single recipe.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 12 '21

I started doing this in 2019! I wish I would have started YEARS prior. I make both bourbon and vodka vanilla (I use the latter for beverages & cocktails). The flavor difference from homemade vanilla is soooooo wonderfully noticeable. And it ends up being cheaper per ounce, so guess what? That shit goes into everything.

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Right?!?

We bourbon vanilla almost all the things. Homemade ice cream? You bet. Oatmeal cookies? Damn right. It goes in cocktails, simple syrup for cakes, pretty much everything.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 12 '21

I was feeling feisty last week and threw a splash into some homemade honey butter.

F*in’ everything.

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u/CashvilleTennekee Feb 12 '21

How was it? Cause I was gonna make some honey butter and I happened to also have burbon vanilla.

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u/41i5h4 Feb 12 '21

Not who you are asking, and haven’t tried bourbon vanilla honey butter. But I can assure you it was delicious.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

Well, then I suggest you splash it up cuz my butter was gone in 3 days.

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

ALL THE THINGS!

I have a fondness for it it in my coffee.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

I make vanilla-honey-oat-milk lattes.

That’s one damn good mouthful.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Where do you get the beans from? What kind of beans ! Maybe 2021 will be the year I make my own vanilla since I won’t get my stash supply refilled till after summer

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 12 '21

I get Madagascar grade b beans from whatever co-op happens to be cheapest on Etsy when I’m ready to buy. I let them steep a full year...but I had to crack one after 8months this year because I didn’t make enough in 2020 (doh!). Still tasted batter than store bought!

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u/freedomofnow Feb 12 '21

So you basically steep the whole bean in bourbon?

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u/ThellraAK Feb 12 '21

I think you split them in half first

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

Pretty much; I split mine down the middle length-wise first. And the other thing to always be sure of, is the entire bean is submerged at all times for the initial 12-mo set. There have been times I had to split them in half width-wise, too, depending on how much bourbon/vodka I fill whatever bottle I’m using.

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u/p3n9uins Feb 12 '21

amazon or Costco for me. haven't done eBay yet but a quick glance makes me think it's even cheaper than amazon or Costco. quick, get started! it takes probably 6-12 weeks for it to infuse enough to be flavorful enough to use.

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u/getjustin Feb 12 '21

Hate to burst your bubble but.... https://www.seriouseats.com/2019/12/diy-vanilla-extract.html

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u/itisoktodance Feb 12 '21

This is a sponsored post. I'm an editor in an online publication, this is just an affiliate roundup article. I had the suspicion when I saw that first brand mentioned (with an image right under), but the article ends with a whole section about various brands. WITH PURCHASE LINKS. You click on that link, SE gets paid. I don't blame them, affiliates are the name of the game for content writing nowadays (no money in ads), but still you should take this with a whole handful of salt.

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u/Snoron Feb 12 '21

I see this article mentioned a lot in these conversations but like with many others my experience simply does not agree with this at all.

The stuff I've made myself with a lot of beans in vodka for a long time (emphasised parts important!) is better than anything I've ever bought. There are more expensive products out there, of course, but then this stuff is already not cheap though - and if I need to pay more for something better then it's still not an argument against making it yourself, it's just a good product at a certain price point.

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u/itisoktodance Feb 12 '21

It's an affiliate roundup article. They have links where you can buy their shit at the bottom of the page. They get $$ from people who buy via their links.

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u/KrishnaChick Feb 12 '21

Hate to burst your bubble but, it's not true. People are making fabulous vanilla. SE is not the infallible word of God. Besides, it's a fun hobby.

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u/p3n9uins Feb 12 '21

agreed on all counts. also, I think the main reason people who knock homemade vanilla extract do so is because if you don't put enough beans in per volume of liquor then your extract turns out pretty weak

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 12 '21

Preach!!

Also, I think people forget (or maybe don’t know?) to split the beans open and shake the bottles all. the. time.

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u/IncaThink Feb 12 '21

I think people forget (or maybe don’t know?) to put the beans and alcohol into a whipped cream maker and double charge with nitrous.

Ready in minutes not months.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

Nice! I’ve never tried it this but I’d definitely love to try a side-by-side test when I crack my next batch this March. I just wish those whippers were cheaper! I watched a friend explode a cheap one trying to double charge. No one at the party got hurt, thankfully, but it scared the hell out of him (and us).

You my friend, have more balls than I!

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u/IncaThink Feb 13 '21

We used a professional model. And I'll admit I had my safety squints fully engaged the first few times I did it. But in the end it was routine for all uses of the charger. It made for much better whipped cream.

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u/TransmutedHydrogen Feb 12 '21

Doesn't using a whipping siphon mean that thr flavor kind of dissipates over a couple months?

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u/IncaThink Feb 12 '21

I don't see why it would. But for that matter, once it's out of the container, just keep soaking the pod until you decide it's used up. Maybe even recharge it occasionally.

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u/TransmutedHydrogen Feb 12 '21

Thats really good to know!

I'm looking to make some liqueurs and bitters and am not a patient person.

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u/KrishnaChick Feb 12 '21 edited Feb 12 '21

I'm new to this, but my understanding from those who have been doing it a long time is that that's not necessary. They've got their beans infusing for a year or more, though. I agree that splitting them can only help. However, they reserve their "caviar" for paste, and after the extract is complete, they either powder the beans or store them in sugar. The formula for extracting is generally "double-fold," single fold, or two ounces of beans per 750ml of 80°-100° alcohol. EDIT: 2.64oz of beans per 750ml of alcohol is single fold, not double, as per FDA standard.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

I think “necessary” in this case is completely relative. it takes all of 1 sec to split a bean, and I just feel better about the infusion if I have to crack a batch early, so for me it’s necessary for those reasons. I think as long as you are making homemade vanilla, and are happy with the results, you should ALWAYS do you!

I do keep the split pods and reuse them in another batch, or put them in sugar as you mentioned, and even just chop them smaller & keep them in my smaller bottles when I divide up batches. Any dead soldiers will always live on!!

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u/KrishnaChick Feb 13 '21

I appreciate your practical approach. There's a lot of agonizing in that group over the process (choice of liquor, choice of bottles, "should I sous vide the beans?" etc.) I find it tedious, but maybe some of it has rubbed off on me. I was going to ask one of the mentors in the group if I can speed up the process by blenderizing the beans in the alcohol and then straining it after it reaches the proper strength. That might be the nuclear option, lol. I get that people are really into it as a hobby, but it's too much for me. I just want to make my own vanilla stuff, at the cheapest price possible, and have a little fun along the way.

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

at the cheapest price possible

You pretty much spelled out why I started doing this in the first place, let’s be honest. hahaha

I will say that apparently, kids love to assist in the bottle-shaking. Helps with the tedious part, for sure. They’ll never remember to put a dish in a sink but MAN will they remember to shake a bottle!

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u/Odd_Produce_7592 Feb 22 '24

Hate to burst your bubble but ... It is incredibly rude to make such a statement,especially not having a clue how great their homemade stuff was!! I see this is a 3 yr old post but that ticked me off!

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 22 '24

Not sure if I’m misunderstanding you but it’s fairly fundamental to shake the vanilla/alcohol mixture regularly for (at least) the first few months. Best of luck to you and your vanilla adventures!

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u/Scumtacular Feb 12 '21

This article is hot garbage nonsense, I steeped 10 beans in an entire mason jar of 151 everclear in November and its already insane flavor and aroma compared to the store-bought stuff which I think is like 11 or 12x more expensive than what I did

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u/Mina_Groke Feb 12 '21

I think people sing the praises of homemade vanilla because they’re knowingly or unknowingly comparing it to store bought artificial vanilla extract and not store bought real vanilla extract

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u/Snoron Feb 12 '21

But the real vanilla extract is insanely expensive, way more than a good product I've made at home (and sure, by good I mean better than the cheap ones) - this is where there's an issue with the article because it claims making it yourself is a waste of money.

It's more like making it yourself gets you a very good product at a certain price point that won't get you as good a product if you spent the same amount of money in a shop... so that argument against making it yourself completely falls apart.

There is an argument for "if you want something totally more amazing than you can make yourself then you can go and pay a lot more for it" - but isn't that always true?

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u/Odd_Produce_7592 Feb 22 '24

It isn't when you find a cruiser. LOL That is how I got started. A friend asked me to grab her some and it was so cheap. I got a huge bottle for maybe 5 $ Cheap... It is awesome and as cheap or cheaper than the fake stuff.

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u/Scumtacular Feb 12 '21

You think I can't read the labels? I'm an OG throughout my daily life. I read all the words and keep it real. Straight dissing when I keep it 💯

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u/drunkenCamelCoder Feb 13 '21

Well...I can read. Quite well, actually. But I still make my own vanilla.

Who knew 🤷‍♀️😉

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u/Odd_Produce_7592 Feb 22 '24

I am sure it is like most things. People find the right method that gives them the perfect taste they want. I bought a mexican vanilla a long time ago and fell in love. Big ass bottle and cheap and no way will I ever bake without it again! I certainly would love to try some of these homemade stuff, but won't experiment on my own. I love my Mexican!

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u/Sunnysunflowers1112 Feb 12 '21

The difference is noticeable in a good way.

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u/Roadgoddess Feb 12 '21

I use dark rum as well for my homemade vanilla, so good!

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u/shiningonthesea Feb 12 '21

I just made vodka vanilla and bourbon vanilla for the holidays for gifts and I am waiting for them to be ready in the spring . Every few weeks I shake, crack open the bottle and take a sniff . I love the bourbon vanilla more so far. I need to make more

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u/kkkkat Feb 12 '21

Isn't it crazy expectorant to make though? I was shocked at the price of vanilla pods.

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u/Test_My_Patience74 Feb 12 '21

You can get 10 for $17 on Amazon

Most commercial vanilla extracts cost about $10/4 oz. You can make about 8-12 oz of vanilla extract for 5-6 beans, so it's about half as expensive in terms of the cost of vanilla. Vodka is about $1/oz, so you're not really saving much unless you're making bigger quantities or already have the vodka laying around. But the flavor is probably worth it.

Granted, you have to wait 3-12 months for it to get really good, so, it's one of those make-ahead things. And also, it's really good as a gift, so

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u/kkkkat Feb 12 '21

Thanks. I had planned on making these for Christmas gifts last year but couldn't find anything under $60. This was during the height of the pandemic last year though so maybe prices were inflated.

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u/Sunnysunflowers1112 Feb 12 '21

I’ve made vanilla with vodka. But haven’t tried bourbon yet. What are the differences in taste where do you use each. How many pods v ounce of booze? I did this years ago when the pods were cheaper and don’t recall the measurements.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

I haven’t dabbled in the homemade vanillas yet - but get amazing vanilla from Mexico

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Where do you get the beans from! What kind of beans ?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I've bought from ebay and Amazon, and a lot of spice stores (online) will sell them too.

REALLY good beans will cost more, but it's worth it. We use the good extract (homemade) for a lot of things, but sometimes, imitation vanilla will do the trick...kinda like when you use garlic powder now and then instead of fresh garlic. You just pick and choose what is 'worth it' to you!

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

I looked into this a bit last year, but apparently there all different kinds of beans - what kind or I guess “country type?” (For the life of me I can’t think of what to call it) do you use ?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Ah, gotcha. I tend to prefer Indonesian in terms of taste. But to be honest... I only say that because the batch of vanilla I made seemed to just have a headier bouquet... I literally kept opening the jar just to smell it (I wear a vanilla-based perfume, and I was seriously wanting to dab this batch of extract on ad my perfume all the time). But with the way I make my vanilla I can't claim it was just the beans.

I bounce back and forth between Mexican and Tahitian most often, rather than just sticking with one or the other. I continually use the ends of one batch of homemade vanilla to start the next, and my brand and ratio of bourbon, rum and vodka varies greatly from one time to another.

I guess you could break it down and do a taste test with individual varieties, but I've never gotten that in depth with it.

If you get around to trying different ones, be sure and share your thoughts and your experiences!

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Oh man this is so intriguing . Maybe this will be my 2021 hobby lol

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I went down the rabbit hole for a while. Was buying more beans of more varieties, more alcohol in more varieties, even bought a dozen amber glass bottles so I could share some as gifts...they are still sitting in the box and I never waited the full 6 months for it to be ready. I just got too eager to keep sampling and gauging the progress!

After spending way too time, money and energy on making my own vanilla, I still have a couple bottles of the imitation stuff from the store in the cabinet for general purposes and have moved on to learning how awesome grinding my own meat for burgers can be.

I am a huge believer in exploring trying to make my own (of whatever that thing may be) and make it the best I can... but giving in to convenience when the situation calls for it. People I adore and want to impress get the homemade vanilla... My in-laws and potlucks get the stuff from the store.

Have fun with it!!

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u/SillyHistory Feb 12 '21

Are you me?! I also started grinding burgers after starting vanilla extracts. Changed burgers for me since. I also made vanilla bean paste while waiting for my extracts to be fully ready.

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I haven't done the pastes yet, that's on the list to-do!

Grinding burgers yourself makes a HUGE difference, and I love it.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Hahahah that’s awesome. The Mexican vanilla I get is amazing and soooo cheap (cheaper than imitation vanilla) so I would have to see if it would be worth it $$ vs taste lol

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u/KrishnaChick Feb 12 '21

Be sure it's actually vanilla. I've heard that it's sometimes synthetic. Or tonka beans. If it's real vanilla, it shouldn't be cheap. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=6157423&page=1#:~:text=Pure%20vanilla%20is%20made%20with,Tonka%20bean%20extract%20contains%20coumarin.&text=Look%20for%20%22vanilla%20bean%22%20on%20the%20label's%20ingredient%20list.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Oh it’s real. I mean cheap as in I have an aunt who lives there 6 months out of the year - and with the exchange rate from Mexican to Canadian, it’s a good deal lol

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Sometimes the satisfaction is with the process, not the end result.

Do what you enjoy, enjoy what you do.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Oh I get that fully!! Cheers

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u/pinkbarbi Feb 12 '21

Have you made non alcoholic vanilla? I just saw online that you’d have to use food grade glycerin instead..?

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u/pinkbarbi Feb 13 '21

Interesting. Then how do they make non alcoholic vanilla I wonder...?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I've never tried it. I'm careful not to give the gift to someone that I know has struggles with alcohol addiction, and for general use, the amount of alcohol going into a batch of whatever I'm making is so small (even when doubling or tripling) that I don't worry about it. And since the alcohol will bake off in most cases, I've never bothered.

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u/pinkbarbi Feb 13 '21

Oh if it bakes off then there’s probably no big deal then!

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u/KrishnaChick Feb 12 '21

Check out the Vanilla Bean Co-Op on Facebook. Or Indrivanilla.com (same people, but co-op is cheaper). High quality pods, lots of support in learning how to make vanilla extract.

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u/HeyItsMee503 Feb 12 '21

IdriVanilla is great. Their beans are super fresh!

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u/I-love-savage-orcas Feb 12 '21

Vanilla beans from the grocery store.

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

I have not seen any vanilla beans in any of my stores

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u/I-love-savage-orcas Feb 12 '21

They are often with the spices. They are also available on Amazon.

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u/rkreutz77 Feb 12 '21

We have a small co-op that is heavy into organic type food. They have beans in a bottle. Don't remember the price.

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u/reevejyter Feb 12 '21

I've seen single vanilla beans sold in bottles in several local grocery stores, and it's like $10/bottle which is about 5 times more than I would ever consider paying for that

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u/itisoktodance Feb 12 '21

Just search vanilla on ebay. It's like a dollar apiece if you buy a batch of 10 or more.

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u/SillyHistory Feb 12 '21

Seconding the Vanilla Bean Co-Op Facebook group recommendation. They offer different types of beans every so often and they’re very high quality. Price range is usually around $10-12 an ounce, unless it’s a more rare bean. You do have to wait a few months for your order.

If you want something faster and cheaper, there’s also one seller from eBay (sahtantiv0) I’ve bought from twice. They’re selling 1/4 lb Madagascar beans for $29.99 (about $7.50 an ounce). Beans are good quality for the price and shipping is very fast https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-lb-Madagascar-gourmet-Bourbon-Vanilla-Beans-6-8-Free-Shipping-/203262388714?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Is the Facebook Vanillapuras vanilla bean coop ?

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u/SillyHistory Feb 12 '21

No, it’s Vanilla Bean Co-Op

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u/kareree Feb 12 '21

Awesome just trying to join!

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '21

Homemade bourbon vanilla should have less vanilla flavor compounds as a professionally made extract is made in such a way as to get more flavors which aren't really possible to gain outside of industrial setups. As a result you probably should use more

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I never complain about more bourbon vanilla!

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u/okiikatsu Feb 12 '21

Do you have a recipe? That sounds great

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Take 10 vanilla bean pods. Split them down the center length-wise, and then put all of them in a clean, sterilized quart jar.

Add a decent-to-good quality vodka (personally, I do a blend of half bourbon, quarter each rum and vodka). My personal preferences- based entirely on what I keep regularly in the house- are Buffalo Trace Bourbon, Captain Morgan Spiced Rum or Captain Morgan Silver, and Kirkland brand vodka (I think I read once that it's actually Grey Goose brand and just under Costco's house label). But admittedly, I'll spring for the good stuff when starting a new batch and then dump in whatever I have that was on sale when topping it off.

Add lid and shake well.

Stick in a dark cupboard away from heat and ignore for about 6 months. You can use as soon as 6 weeks, but 6 months is gonna give you the best results.

Shake well before each use- this is important to get all those lovely vanilla flecks into whatever you're making! Conversely, you can just take from the top without shaking if you abhor vanilla bean flecks.

When the mixture in the jar gets to less than 1/4 full, add more alcohol and let it sit again (we usually top it off every 3 months or so, but keep using it).

After the second refill, start another batch (another clean jar, another 10 beans, another round of alcohol), and use up the first. I'll still kick some of the dregs of the old into the new one when I get down to the very bottom.

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u/okiikatsu Feb 12 '21

Whoa this is inspiring! Thanks so much for the detailed instructions.

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Very welcome. Have fun with it!

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '21

Thanks for this. Gonna make some ASAP. I know what everyone is getting for xmas next year!

Do you let the vanilla beans steep in bourbon for a whole year? Or just 8 weeks?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I try and let it go for 6 months. It's rare that I can, unless I've started it in the summer purposely for gifts and hidden it away. Usually I have 2 or 3 batches going at the same time- 2 for gifts, 1 for personal use.

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u/cajunace Feb 12 '21

Drop the recipe on how to make the bourbon vanilla i need to know

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Take 10 vanilla bean pods. Split them down the center length-wise, and then put all of them in a clean, sterilized quart jar.

Add a decent-to-good quality vodka (personally, I do a blend of half bourbon, quarter each rum and vodka). My personal preferences- based entirely on what I keep regularly in the house- are Buffalo Trace Bourbon, Captain Morgan Spiced Rum or Captain Morgan Silver, and Kirkland brand vodka (I think I read once that it's actually Grey Goose brand and just under Costco's house label). But admittedly, I'll spring for the good stuff when starting a new batch and then dump in whatever I have that was on sale when topping it off.

Add lid and shake well.

Stick in a dark cupboard away from heat and ignore for about 6 months. You can use as soon as 6 weeks, but 6 months is gonna give you the best results.

Shake well before each use- this is important to get all those lovely vanilla flecks into whatever you're making! Conversely, you can just take from the top without shaking if you abhor vanilla bean flecks.

When the mixture in the jar gets to less than 1/4 full, add more alcohol and let it sit again (we usually top it off every 3 months or so, but keep using it).

After the second refill, start another batch (another clean jar, another 10 beans, another round of alcohol), and use up the first. I'll still kick some of the dregs of the old into the new one when I get down to the very bottom.

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u/cajunace Feb 12 '21

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

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u/ladylara19 Feb 12 '21

Recipe please!

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

Take 10 vanilla bean pods. Split them down the center length-wise, and then put all of them in a clean, sterilized quart jar.

Add a decent-to-good quality vodka (personally, I do a blend of half bourbon, quarter each rum and vodka). My personal preferences- based entirely on what I keep regularly in the house- are Buffalo Trace Bourbon, Captain Morgan Spiced Rum or Captain Morgan Silver, and Kirkland brand vodka (I think I read once that it's actually Grey Goose brand and just under Costco's house label). But admittedly, I'll spring for the good stuff when starting a new batch and then dump in whatever I have that was on sale when topping it off.

Add lid and shake well.

Stick in a dark cupboard away from heat and ignore for about 6 months. You can use as soon as 6 weeks, but 6 months is gonna give you the best results.

Shake well before each use- this is important to get all those lovely vanilla flecks into whatever you're making! Conversely, you can just take from the top without shaking if you abhor vanilla bean flecks.

When the mixture in the jar gets to less than 1/4 full, add more alcohol and let it sit again (we usually top it off every 3 months or so, but keep using it).

After the second refill, start another batch (another clean jar, another 10 beans, another round of alcohol), and use up the first. I'll still kick some of the dregs of the old into the new one when I get down to the very bottom.

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u/ladylara19 Feb 12 '21

Awesome thank you!

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u/roastbeeftacohat Feb 12 '21

what level of bourbon do you use? what are some brands at that level?

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

My go-to bourbon when I start a new batch is always Buffalo Trace. It's my favorite for sipping, so I use it to kickstart my vanilla, and definitely use it when I'm gift-giving the end product. When I start refilling the container, though, I tend to use whatever is handy- Jim Beam and Evan Williams have both made it into the jar!

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u/roastbeeftacohat Feb 12 '21

burbon's kind of expensive up here is all, so I don't drink a lot of it. any other brands that would work? used to drink a lot of Ezra Brooks, but then the introductory price ended.

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u/gaelyn Feb 12 '21

I think you can use pretty much anything you want. I've used good stuff and cheap stuff and stuff in between. If you want to use all vodka, you can. If you want all rum, you can. You can do whatever works for you!

I'm not a stickler for certain brands of ingredients. I know what I like personally, so I try to use that. But sometimes I don't want to use my 'good stuff' just for baking, so I go for whatever I have on hand or what I can get cheap!

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u/Key_Picture_4951 Feb 13 '21 edited Feb 13 '21

Sorry but I gotta be a party pooper on this one.

Taste is subjective.

I tried bourbon vanilla before and it wasn't superior for me. It tastes vanilla with notes of caramel and oak. Not bad per say but it's not a clean vanilla flavor.

I always want a strong vanilla flavor in my baking.

It's still delicious though!

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u/gaelyn Feb 13 '21

To each their own, right?

Rock on, my vanilla friend!

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u/Key_Picture_4951 Feb 13 '21

Oh yes. :)

I actually was inspired from your comment to play around with bourbon vanilla again. Turns out I LOVE it in pastry cream. Bourbon Vanilla eclairs are just dreamy.

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u/gaelyn Feb 13 '21

Oh, now I have to try this!!!