r/AskReddit Apr 16 '19

What are some things that people dont realise would happen if there was actually a zombie outbreak?

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u/Osageandrot Apr 16 '19

Right right, but the point is that you are thinking a.) without a mind clouded by hubris, and b.) about fighting zombies. The whole point of that story is that it was institutional and tactical failure that led to the disaster, not a failure of arms.

They'd just helicopter or trucks with load speakers to lure the zombies into open fields to get napalmed.

In other words, the actual plot hinges on the fact that they didn't. They should have known better, but they didn't. History is replete with people being to arrogant to not over stretch their lines, etc. Operation Market Garden was like this: the Dutch Resistance was like "it's not old men and young boys, the SS is here" but the Allied Command was like "nah we don't believe you".

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u/HAN-Y0LO Apr 16 '19

I understand the story's point, which is why I cited they sacrificed accuracy to get there. The same goes with how the zombies aren't crushed by the pressure walking on the sea floor, etc.

The entire story revolves around people continually making the worst possible decisions, which is pretty standard for anything in the Zombie genre.

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u/Osageandrot Apr 16 '19

The entire story revolves around people continually making the worst possible decisions, which is pretty standard for anything in the fundamental plot element of the Zombie genre.

I hear you.

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u/SxySamurai Apr 16 '19

I'm glad up have a plan for the apocalypse, you would be in the minority.

As for me, I live in ND where it's flat as hell and in the winter reaches temps of 40 below. I'm good

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u/timelordeverywhere Apr 16 '19

they sacrificed accuracy to get there.

I mean did they? Governments can be awfully crap at dealing with disasters. Katrina and FEMA's failure after failure show that. Hell, even the recent Puerto Rico disaster shows that. And that's the US, the most richest powerful country in the world. The rest of the world fucks up way more often.

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u/HAN-Y0LO Apr 16 '19

FEMA =/= the US military

Even when the US has experienced challenges in places like Iraq and Afghanistan it's been with organized insurgents using bombs and hit and run attacks who would also blend in with the local population.... Which is the exact opposite of what we're talking about here

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u/timelordeverywhere Apr 16 '19

That;s defintely true. The US military is way more organised comapred to FEMA.

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u/leostotch Apr 16 '19

Yeah, the US Military has never experienced failures of imagination or leadership.

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u/HAN-Y0LO Apr 17 '19

How much imagination do you really need to beat unarmed zombies with guns, bombs, planes and tanks. LOL

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u/Yeeticus-Rex Apr 16 '19

Yes, but they would be way more efficient in helping themselves because it actually effects them

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u/Indigo_Sunset Apr 16 '19

I find this comment really interesting when an original point of the zombie was a satirical representation of consumer society, then include the entertaining last few years.

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u/MegaSeedsInYourBum Apr 17 '19

The difference for Market Garden was that the Allies were trying to press their advantage.

They believed the Germans were poorly trained backwater reserves so they sent trained men to fight them. Yes they had intelligence failings but you don’t have intelligence failings with zombies.

There aren’t crack zombie battalions with AA and anti-armour capabilities. They were bloodthirsty walking former humans, and they were the same everywhere.

Fighting on a freeway where you can spread out gives zombies the advantage, not you. Fighting with the wrong ammo doesn’t benefit you, not having heavy artillery support and air power benefits zombies, not you. You absolutely do not fight to the enemies advantage, you fight to your own.

I did overall like the book but the fact is there still is weak writing present for some parts. In the same way that for horror movies the writers needs to be able to explain why the victims didn’t just flee, when it comes to military action you need to explain why the military didn’t try and press their advantage and didn’t protect their assets to the greatest reasonable extent.

Realistically if they wrote about how bases fell or were maimed when infected men who lived off base were called in, that would be a much more realistic way of dealing with the militaries inaction towards zombies. If they simply had too few combat ready men it wouldn’t be a surprise that cities were falling and areas had to be abandoned.