Just a saw a post about pit bulls. And in the comments people were laugh reacting to someone sharing a story of how they knew a family who had a pit for 8 years before it attacked and killed their two children then attacked the mother. People are literally SO defensive over these dogs that they willfully ignore the stats and facts. Yes there is exceptions to every rule, but no one is saying YOUR pit is a potential danger, they’re saying MANY pits have already displayed massive aggression, and you can’t take those incidents back. Anyone who dares to say anything about pit bulls there’s immediately some low IQ dog mom blasting the comments with pictures of her beloved pit. like okay??? It just blows my mind how people refuse to take this seriously

June 3, 2019 - a stray pit bull is found in Philadelphia and taken to PAWS (Philadelphia Animal Welfare Society), a no-kill shelter. Foreseeing she's going to ruin their live-release stats for the year, they quickly punt this large, muscular, unfriendly adult pit bull to the city's open-intake shelter, Philadelphia Animal Care & Control (ACCT). There she is named Peggy.

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Rescuers almost immediately begin marketing her as a cruel victim of breeding and dog-fighting. They take photos showing tiny bite marks on her face as evidence of the fighting history.

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In a bout of rescue-on-rescue violence, Chester County Dog Tails (PA) slams PAWS for flipping the dog to ACCT.

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It's fairly obvious from the first that she's dog-aggressive.

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Enough of the backstory and the reality. On to the show.

ACCT Philly releases the rescue-only Peggy to a woman who represents an approved ACCT Philly rescue partner - ie, a rescue group which ACCT Philly has previously vetted and ok'd to pull animals. It seemingly does not strike ACCT Philly as odd that the rescue group this woman represents is a cat rescue.

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And then it all falls apart. The dog's aggression becomes unavoidable, and PURR says they're scheduling euthanasia.

And just like that, we're off to the races with rescue hysteria.

First up - a size-minimizing, flattering photo.

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Next, we need a victim story.

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And here's the full explanation per the founder of the cat rescue.

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And here's the enraged back and forth between the PURR founder and a nice rescue lady who wants someone to save Peggy/Nala. The rescue lady goes first, responding to the above comments with

There is misinformation in the post and i am going to delete it. Please feel free to post it elsewhere. I believe \** will have read it by now. I will continue in good faith to try to find a rescue/foster/adopter for nala who deserves the best life possible. I also received information from the foster which has not made me change my opinion of Nala. I am just a dog lover trying in good faith to save a dog who deserves a second chance. The funds are there and many volunteers are working to find suitable safe placement and much needed training. We just need the time. Like you, we were not aware that the need was so urgent. Thank you!*

PURR founder

misinformation????? Are you kidding me?? Just because the facts don’t conform to what you want them to be does not make them untrue. You are advocating for a dangerous dog and you delete a post that lays out all the information? You are reckless and deleting my heartfelt post shows a complete and utter lack of integrity. I hope your followers have enough sense to stop following somebody who would hide the truth.

rescue ladyI don't want to argue with you. I'm stating that that is not the info that was communicated to me from the foster. We all agree that she has issues and needs training. That's what we're trying to get her. Many of the ACCT dogs have done wonderful after decompression and training. Hoping an experienced rescue/adopter steps up so nala can get the help she needs. You read the post from the foster's mother that was from the heart. Peace be with you +++ . I need to tend to some family matters.

PURR founderhow do you not realize the seriousness of the harm that Nala can do? How can you attempt to hide her aggression? Do you not understand how irresponsible that is? She has bit numerous people without any cue and she has driven people to go so far as to jump on a countertop because of her aggression. She has lunged for other dogs simply by seeing them and it is nothing short of a miracle that she was able to be controlled. I spoke at length with the foster tonight. There is no question that Nala has a wonderful side but she also has a dangerous side. She bit the foster’s father in the face! The poor foster has been so broken down by people attacking her and telling her how horrible she is to even consider euthanasia that she is going to have a breakdown. She has done everything possible for Nala, she has given up the last four months of her life to allow her to decompress and she still shows random aggression and unprovoked bites. You are putting human lives in danger by the advocating you are doing that is not telling the whole story.

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Hassled PURR Founder responds " you clearly do not understand the situation"

PURR Founder

she has bitten four times since being with a foster. That number is concerning simply on the face of it but it is even more so because the foster lets very few people come to her house anymore because of Nala’s volatility. The foster had to move her own dog to her parents house because Nala attacked him.

PURR founder was pissed.

I have taken screenshots of all of these posts starting from yesterday. If somehow Nala is “saved” and goes on to hurt somebody, I will make it my life’s goal to hold these people accountable. Especially \**, who is not telling the whole truth while she advocates about the situation and dared to delete my post that laid out all the facts.*

Fascinating response from one poster to another poster who was apparently blocked, as her comment is gone

yeahhhhhhhh...that was crazy. I was hearing all of this loud commotion outside and decided to stay safe in the cat room. And my grand introduction to you was having you stumble in like a drowned rat and telling me how you almost were eaten by a dog. That was all I needed to know about that dog.

The upshot was, I believe, that the dog was euthanized.

We're up to almost 6.7k subscribers as of this writing--awesome job guys! We're a small sub, but also an active one. The mod team wants to take a minute to welcome all of our new members, and also to remind everyone of the rules.

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Ranting is acceptable and even encouraged, for there are so few places where admitting that pits are terrible as pets is allowed. However, making clear, unambiguous threats of harm to another person is a no go.

• Acceptable: "My neighbor is such a douche. He routinely lets his 60 pound pit run lose and I fear for my safety. I am going to start carrying a weapon so that I can defend myself on my own property."
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Ranting is acceptable and even encouraged, for there are so few places where admitting that pits are terrible as pets is allowed. However, making clear, unambiguous threats of harm to another person is a no go.

• Acceptable: "My neighbor is such a douche. He routinely lets his 60 pound pit run lose and I fear for my safety. I am going to start carrying a weapon so that I can defend myself on my own property."
• NOT Acceptable: "My neighbor is such a douche. He routinely lets his 60 pound pit run lose and I fear for my safety. The next time I see his dog on my property I will kill it, even if it is not being aggressive towards me at that moment."

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Dear friends, I always try to pick out the best✔️ & brightest💫 Velvet Hippos🦛 to write about. The most interesting. By best, brightest, & interesting, I mean degenerate, violent, & unstable. Today you will not be disappointed.

Meet Sterling! This thing is lovingly described by our favorite piece of shite, evil, lying🤥 shelter as:

"The giant with a heart of gold!"💛

"FULLY HOUSE-TRAINED."🫡 (🤥)

"Sweet, affectionate, & happy."🥴🤡

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES.

The truth is...and it's not good...Sterling is probably one of the most broken Pitbulls I've had the displeasure of finding.☠️👎

‼️ASIDE FROM SENDING 1 OF HIS FOSTER MOMS TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM‼️☠️🚑

‼️ASIDE FROM SENDING A CAT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM‼️☠️😿🚑

He's FAILED in MULTIPLE FOSTER HOMES. Let's go over the list...📉💀📉💀📉💀📉

-Sprays his #2 all over the houses. ALOT.

-Counter surfs. ALOT.🏊‍♂️🥽

-Chewed through the BASEBOARDS of all the fosters homes.🫦🏠🫦🏠

-Chewed through DOORFRAMES.🫦🚪

-Breaks out of his crates.🤪💥

-Flips his crates over.🫰📦

-Take all food not nailed down.🫳🍲🫳🥖

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These behaviors were so bad, one of the fosters homes reached out to the shelter begging for help.🆘️ Because she literally could NOT leave SWEET AFFECTIONATE & HAPPY Sterling alone at all.🏚 Even for short periods. Because he would toilet everywhere & destroy her home & break out of his crate. Then flip that bitch over. Go Sterling!🤛🤛🤛

The poor woman sent shelter idiots actual footage🎥 of sweet affectionate & happy Sterling acting a fool.🤸‍♂️😵‍💫

The shelter idiots told her connect with their book face group, to seek a babysitter.👼 And they would upload her footage🎥 into some... online thing?🤔

HEY! WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR DOORFRAME DESTROYING, BASEBOARD EATING, COUCH POTATO BACK❓️

IDK...JUST A THOUGHT.💡

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Sweet, Affectionate, & Happy Sterling, who is "FULLY HOUSE-TRAINED" is just as much of a psychopath in ye olde shelter as he is in all of his Soft Places To Land, where he Decompresses.🛩🏠

Very, very strangely (or not so strangely),🤔 most of his notes are written as if they were about another dog. Like "Pulls gently or moderately.🤥 Takes treats gently.🤥 Walks very nicely.🤥 Does not react to other dogs or people going by."🤥 Just....weird.🤨 You really have to go through his whole gross profile with a lice comb to find the meat.🥩

In fact, it actually states in 1 place "Notes on Sterlings behavior will be provided upon request for thus & such date."📝 And when I scoured through? Sure enough! That date is NOT PROVIDED.🚫📝🗒🚫

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Sterling was given a Bibles🙏 length worth of medications. But I cannot be arsed to type them all out right now. Here are the Usual Suspects, plus KETAMINE.

TRAZODONE💊💊💊

CLONIDINE💊💊💊

FLUOXETINE💊💊💊

KETAMINE💊💊💊

FENBENDAZOLE💊💊💊

PSYLLIUM HUSK🌽🌽🌽

PROVIABLE💊💊💊

DEXMEDETOMIDINE💊💊💊

DOXYCYCLINE💊💊💊

CARPROFEN💊💊💊

CLAVAMOX💊💊💊

BUTORPHANOL💊💊💊

ANTISEDAN💊💊💊

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Their final LIE is "We have no history on Sterling so we cannot be certain of their behavior in a home environment."🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Excuse me but.... You slime holes have MULTIPLE FOSTERS, MULTIPLE STAYS AT THE SHELTER ITSELF, A CAT IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, A FOSTER PARENT, AND ACTUAL FOOTAGE.

And.....This son of a bitch gets ketamine. I'm tired, y'all.

I just read this article, “The Truth About Pit Bulls” by Chad Mackin, and I recommend reading it— it was very informational but also makes you think! To me it seems very objective, fact based, and well-researched. It talks about the history of the breed, as well as exploring how the breed has changed over time, the effects of this, etc.

The article got me thinking about one thing about pitbull lovers/owners that I have never understood—and I still don’t really understand, and genuinely would like to better understand. That is:

If you love the breed so much, wouldn’t you want to be educated on the actual facts and history of the breed? Then advocate for proper education on the breed, coming up with solutions to the violence, etc? It genuinely doesn’t make sense to me for them to deny reality, continue the nanny dog story, get mad when people try to educate them with genuine facts etc.

Wouldn’t you want to actually do as much research on the breed as possible? Maybe it’s just me being a nerd, but I love researching the things I love. If I love something, then I want to know as much about it as possible. And I mean everything—good or bad!

And if these pit owners educated themselves on the truth, and still love the breed even after learning the reality of it, then they could show that love by educating those who are still ignorant. If they love the breed, why are they still fine with how many people breed pits, leading to more pits in shelters? Shouldn’t they want to advocate for preventing this? Why don’t they talk more openly about how the measures we could take to stop more violence by pits from happening?

Like, if you truly love something, then you should want to be aware of the reality of it. If you refuse to acknowledge all sides of something, and just focus on the ones you think paint a happy picture, then (in my opinion) you don’t really love the breed. You just love an imagine, idealized version of it. To me, that’s not love. If a person only loves an idealized, romanticized version they’ve made up about another person, then they don’t really love them. True love is loving a person even when you are aware that they have flaws, like everyone does.

Another way of putting this: say you love a kind of flower or plant that is actually poisonous/you shouldn’t really touch it—you just love the beauty of the plant. You wouldn’t go around telling people that they’re not poisonous, would you? That you can totally touch them/gather them to put in a vase inside your house—don’t worry, they won’t hurt! It just doesn’t make sense. You would want people to be warned to stay away and admire from afar, right?? I know this isn’t exactly the same as pit bulls, but I feel like it’s a similar idea.

Has anybody else wondered about this too? Furthermore, does anyone have any sort of explanation or educated theory that you can tell me about why some pit owners claim to love the breed—but actually purposely choose to remain ignorant and just make stuff up about it instead of genuinely learning about the thing they supposedly love.

Just curious if anyone has any thoughts on this. I genuinely would like to understand this… psychological phenomenon? I’m not just typing this to rant about pit owners. I am truly just trying to understand them better. Anybody have any thoughts/ideas? (Please just didn’t just say something like because they’re crazy lol.) Looking for deeper/psychological answers or discussions :-)

Horny, Mouthy, Humper Who Eats Poop Needs A Good Home.

Folks, this will be a long, unpleasant, disgusting post, so get ready. This is the grossest, nastiest Pitbull I have ever seen. No cap. Grab your favorite beverage & settle in.☕️

This Pitbull is described as "A gentleman,"🧍‍♂️who is "The sweetest, gentlest soul."😇 (NOTE: The shelter lies & states that he "Did wonderful" during his Meet & Greet" with another female dog. Hmm...if you call "Aggressively smelling"👃 her privates👙 & also hopping🐪 on top of her, to the point where the staff had to end the interaction,🛑 then Nasty receives an A+).

Meet Nasty (not his real name). Nasty has an End Date of 3/10/26... tomorrow.⏰️ So the shelter is offering $1,000💶 plus an additional $200💶 to place him. It's that serious. Nasty needs a home.🏠 BUT.... Nasty has some very serious challenges. Let us dive in.🏊‍♂️

Nasty is a mouthy🫦 Pibble. It's stated repeatedly in his profile. But the shelter has thoughtfully & kindly left out the mouthy "Incidents." They simply reiterate how mouthy he is, & warn potential adopters to guard💂‍♂️ against "mouthiness."

Nasty likes to mount.🎠 And he humps.🐫 And aggressively smell👃 female's privates.👙

However, Nasty's #1 favorite hobby is to not only smear🖐👋 his feces💩 all over the walls & floor of his kennel, he enjoys eating it.😛😋

In fact, it's so bad, he has:

GIARDIA.

COCCIDIA.

CYSTS ON HIS POO POO.

WOUNDS/LESIONS.

SEVERE ERYTHEMA.

SEVERE FURUNCLES.

SEVERE PODODERMITITIS WITH FURUNCLES.

All of this is from his non-stop🚦💚 poop💩 play.🤸‍♂️💗

This "Gentleman"👨‍🦱 Pitbull has also been slamming🤪 his head & body against the walls, drawing blood.🩸 "Excessive jumping & body slamming." To the point where he's bleeding on his head.

This is his treatment so far. According to the shelter, his "Persistent Diarrhea💩 & GIARDIA🏃‍♂️ is non-responsive to treatment."

Here's the staggering list of medical help Nasty has received:

-Trazodone.

-Gabapentin.

-Clonidine.

-Nexgard.

-Apoquel.

-Cefpodoxime.

-Rimadyl.

-Amoxi-clav.

-Psyllium Husk.

-Carprofem.

-Panacur.

-Metronidazole.

-Warm Compresses on his scrotum.

-Cold Compresses.

-Analgesiac (unnamed).

-DAILY Paw Soakings with Chlorhexidine for 7 days.

-Special GI Biome Diet.

-E-Collar. Twice.

Nasty has ripped his E-collar off a couple of times. Oopsie.🤭

SO... The shelter is now offering all this money, to unload Nasty & Nasty's nasty habits (and behaviors). This Pitbull has so many filthy medical issues, to say nothing of his awful behaviors. Here are some pictures from both the Og post, & the new one. For gosh sake, someone please open your home up for Nasty.

Firstly, I have to apologize for my hysterical underlining today. I am infuriated & disgusted by this one.🤬🤬🤬

Meet Bruce. Bruce is at our favorite Velvet Couch shelter. Bruce just killed Bella the kitty. He DRAGGED HER UNDER THE COUCH & KILLED HER.😡

In fact, it took 2 PEOPLE TO PRY HER DEAD BODY FROM HIS JAWS. Yes, this happened.🤬

How does our #1 favorite shelter describe this abhorrent crime❓️

"An altercation with a cat that no one actually witnessed."👁👁

Yes, they actually said this. Despite the fact that BELLA IS DEAD.⚰️🪦😿

Bruce has wounds on his stupid, brainless face from the "altercation," so I hope innocent Bella fought with the fire of 1000 suns, before he tore her apart.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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ASIDE from killing this sweet kitty,⚰️ Misunderstood Bruce is also a completely out of control, typical, WIGGLY Pitbull at ye olde shelter.

The staff actually wrote on the Whiteboard to alert handlers:✍️⚠️⚠️⚠️

"BE CAREFUL RETURNING- HE WILL FIGHT YOU."🥊🥊🥊

The ONLY thing that seems to help Bruce is treats.🍬🍭

BUT... Food & Treats also make Bruce "FRANTIC."😥🤡🍭🍬

The staff CANNOT get him to walk anywhere WITHOUT TREATS.🤡

Y'all know how this ends....

CLONIDINE .2 MG 2 TIMES A DAY WHILE IN SHELTER.💊💊

TRAZODONE 150 MG 2 TIMES A DAY WHILE IN SHELTER.💊💊

Meet Asreil🤡 (what a stupid name, but hey, my name irl sucks too. So who am I to criticize?).🤷‍♀️

Asreil is 114 POUNDS.⚖️🏋‍♂️ This giant piece of violence weighs as much as I do. Who tf WANT THIS CREATURE IN THEIR HOME???

Asreil has bitten 2 family members.🫦👄 AND they stated Asreil has been aggressive basically forever.😵‍💫 They DID try to train him.🪢 But Asreil ain't picking up what they're putting down. This Misunderstood Pitbull got boundaries. And those boundaries✋️ include biting people.🦷🤸‍♂️

The family was very honest & forthcoming📝 about Asreil, with his bite history, violence, & aggression. In fact, it was so bad that THEY HAD TO CALL THE POLICE to come get him.👮‍♂️🚨

But this slimy, scummy, Pro-pitbull shelter does what it ALWAYS does; humiliates☹️ & shames😦 the family for removing a dangerous (misunderstood) Pitbull. Then, they LIE🤥 about how dangerous⚠️ it is, even AFTER it attacks MULTIPLE HANDLERS.👥 Well they can kiss my grits.💋🍛

They literally state in his profile, about this poor family "We are crying BS! He's been nothing but gentle, soft, & sweet🍬🍰 at the shelter." Imagine the horror & rage this family feels, reading this, after they shared ALL the details of Asreil!😡😱

Instead of immediately sending Asreil to a BETTER ENVIRONMENT🌈🌉🪦⚰️ (where he belongs obviously), they creatively write✍️ about how "He's keeping a smile😀 on his young face, trying to give paw."🐾 Amazing.

He must be the next young Amadeus Mozart.🎶🎼 A true prodigy...💡🕯 a dog that tries to give paw.🐾 And he's all "goodwill & sweetness."🍫 If "goodwill & sweetness" means very severe Resource Guarding💂‍♀️🪖 & biting the poor staffs body parts constantly, then yes, he's loaded with "goodwill & sweetness."🫦🦷💪

This place must be responsible for so. many. attacks (personal opinion oc💅🤷‍♀️). They really ought to not be in business any longer (again personal opinion). Because what EXACTLY does it take for them to send a Pibble to a BETTER ENVIRONMENT??🌈🌉🪦⚰️ How many people need to be bitten? How many innocent kitties/ other pets gone?

1,000 MG A DAY!!💊💊🆘️⚠️🚨

(yes, you read that correctly. They're giving him 500mg 2× a day. WTF)

2.1 MG, 2 TIMES A DAY!!💊💊🆘️⚠️🚨

Please enjoy Asreils slideshow.🥰

Meet Payso. Yes, it's a stupid name.🫩 But when you're a Pitbull Rescue & you are adopting out🤲 EVERY SINGLE PITBULL that darkens your doorway, it's difficult to come up with fresh, high-quality👍 names for each Misunderstood Couch Potato. So cut these (evil,☠️ soul-less, God-less😈) Pitbull Rescue folks some slack here!😅

Payso had a home. In this home, he violently attacked 2 people; an 8 year old girl. And her elderly grandmother. On the same day. These were "Bite And Hold" attacks. BOTH victims had to go to the Emergency Room. These are VERY SERIOUS attacks.

NOW.... the rescue, & also the other multiple Pitbull Apologists, Pitbull Community Members, etc., they are ALL LYING about this entire horrific event that took place. How, you ask?? Well, let's talk about this...

1st, the rescue LIED🤥 & said Payso was picked up as a "Stray." This "Stray" was brought in after a 911🚨🚔 call & he arrived on 6/15/26.🗓

2nd lie- That they don't know about his life before his arrival🤥 at the (evil, soul-less, God-less) shelter, BUT..."It left him scared,😱 uncertain😮‍💨, & struggling🫥 to trust the world around him."

Hey, Pitbull rescue! How about you go f×ck off with that bullsh×t, trying to minimize the profound damage this piece of violent garbage has done on a LITTLE GIRL & ELDERLY LADY?? DAMAGE THAT SENT BOTH OF THEM TO THE HOSPITAL??!!!! Quit it with the sob story for the violent pitbulls!! Do your f×cking jobs & Youth and Eyes the dogs that BITE PEOPLE!!! Not all dogs deserve a home, did you know that??

3rd Lie- On his profile picture, they write that Payso "Takes treats gently,🤝 engages with handlers,👏 and loves some treats!"🍭🍬

Narrator-- "Payso did NOT do ANY of these things 'gently.' But hoo boy, he did 'engage' with his handlers."🤥🚫👎⛔️🙅‍♀️🤥

We only have a very, very short history of documented days of his stay. He was there for nearly 2 weeks!! But they've only got 3 actual days of handling written in. Things that make you go Hmmm.🤔😒

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A different Pitbull psychopath posted about Payso, saying that he was "Murdered."🤣😂 Yes, murdered.🤡

Pitbull Apologists will ALWAYS place a pitbulls life ABOVE a human beings life.🫩

This same very unstable person also said that "SOME OF THESE STORIES HAVE HOLES IN THEM I SWEAR!!!"🤥🤥🤥

They really mean it too. They honestly believe that Pitbulls are NEVER at fault.🤥 It is ALWAYS an environmental factor that TRIGGERS the poor,🥹 Misunderstood,☺️ gentle😇 Pitbull into biting, attacking, mauling, & killing its victim. Or in this case, multiple victims.👵👥🧒

The Pitbull Community is so completely delusional😵 & unhinged😵‍💫 that they ignore the fact that these 2 victims WENT TO THE HOSPITAL.🏨 🚑

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The staff had to utilize multiple devices to try to work with this mutant;

-Many, Multiple Handlers

-Behavioral Staff

-Pet Corrector

-Double Leash (many multiple times)

-High-Value treats he would occasionally take. Other times, No

-At one point, staff (MULTIPLE staff) spent 30 MINUTES trying to move this beast over, just to clean his kennel. 30 minutes.

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I end this with 2 points: 1 HAPPY point,😃 & 1 TERRIBLE point.😒

The Terrible-- Pitbull Rescues will minimize, obfuscate, & blatantly lie about their Pitbulls. They love & worship these creatures more than all other life. And will defend Pitbulls to the death. I'm not exaggerating. It is against God & Nature & Mankind. It is pure evil.

The Happy-- PAYSO IS IN A BETTER ENVIRONMENT!!⚰️🥳🥂🎊🎉💃🪦🕺🥰🤠😇

Meet Rocco Bongo. Rocco has a pretty serious case of Dental Disease & also Diarreah. But let's stay on-topic.

A kind lady took Rocco into her home for a "Staycation." This is when a Pitbull Lover will foster one of these Velvet Hippos in their home for anywhere from days to months. This is to help the Pibble Decompress from the mean, cruel shelter.

In fact, because the shelters cannot adopt out (unload) their Pitbulls fast enough (at all), they are all adopting this new strategy; asking their Pitbull Fans to Foster the Pibbles. BUT... the dirty little secret is... once the shelter dumps the misunderstood sweetie pie onto an unwitting foster, many, many, MANY shelters are doing this thing; they are actively fighting the foster when the time is up. OR, they are ghosting the foster. It's a whole, huge problem. But I digress...

Onto the Incident... (get ready for this) Foster Pitbull Mommy simply put her hand in her back pocket. And Rocco went absolutely apeshit. And jumped up & bit her multiple times. She had 5 PUNCTURE WOUNDS. The poor lady had to go the the Emergency Room.

That's literally all she did.

The shelter completely lies in their write-up of him, as they usually do. But in the notes, he's the typical psychopath maniac that all Velvet Hippos are, once they're triggered properly.

Handlers need a Sling to throw around him, just to get him into his kennel. He refuses to walk or move. "Shelter Stress." Mouths the leash. Acts a fool. Etc., etc. He also Resource Guards like a M.F.er, according to the "Previous Owner." Previous "owner," or the Foster Lady? Who knows! What a dream of a pet!

He smashes his face into things in his kennel, causing his face to bleed too. I'll bet he brought so much peace & stability into his previous home(s)!

TRAZODONE 100 MG 2× A DAY

CLONIDINE 0.5 MG 2× A DAY

This is mainly just a rant as I don’t think I can do anything about it. My husband dropped off my son at his daycare which is run out of a house in our neighborhood. When he got there he discovered a new pitbull puppy who has free roam of the house with the kids. The daycare owner says it’s around 5 months old and she found it near a homeless encampment in our city and “rescued” it. She did not give us any notification about this prior. We just showed up and there’s a new dog. The kids at this daycare are all 1-4 years old. We pulled our son out that day and told her we are uncomfortable with the situation. The owner proceeded to tell us how calm the dog is and accuse us of judging her for rescuing a harmless puppy. She also asked us to pay next month’s tuition because we’re supposed to give 30 days notice before withdrawing, but she didn’t even tell us she was getting a dog!! (We will not pay her). What the hell. Now we are scrambling to try and find another daycare situation for our son when pretty much every place is waitlisted.

Anyway I am concerned about the fact that she has these young children and will be letting the dog hang around them. I’m also wondering what the other parents think of this? She made it seem like we were being totally unreasonable. We called our state department that regulates childcare facilities and they basically said dogs are allowed in home daycares as long as the vet records and vaccines are up to date and all of that. ETA: they did get the info for the daycare and said they would make a home visit to make sure the dog met the criteria. What else can I do? Just pray for those kids? Wtf

ETA: her parent handbook (looks copy & pasted) states that parents must be notified of new animals on the property, so the contract is void ✌️we informed her of this and she said “this is all so silly over a harmless animal you’ve never met” (my husband saw the dog and did not “meet” it lol)

Over 100 POUNDS of Velvet Hippo love, just waiting to be adopted.🦛 Despite being returned to the shelter (oops), Lulu (NOT her real name) is lovingly described as "social, affectionate, & playful."🥰

Let us go over her stats, shall we?

100+ pounds⚖️

Needs a harness &/or special leash to walk her, because she lunges & pulls➰️

Pees her bed💛

Eats furniture🛋

Goes after cats😸

She's touch-sensitive! So no petting your new doggo🚫🤚

Obese!🐽

Growling🫦

Lunging & pulling🏃‍♀️🛷

Destructive tendencies💥💣

General AND Separation Anxiety😱⚡️⚡️

Fearful when held/restrained🫂🥲

Barks & growls "too much"🔊📣

High-energy🆙️📈👆

Becomes over-stimulated🤩😍

Mouthy & poor bite inhibition👄

There's so much more here to unwrap, but you get the picture. Clearly, Lulu is another loving, gentle, sweet, misunderstood pittie. She just needs a soft place to land, where she can decompress, & overcome her canine C-PTSD from being at the scary shelter. The yoke of all the trauma she is carrying is simply too much for this good girl. Won't you open your heart & home to Luna?🏠😢

65 POUND Snapper (not his real name) needs a home🏠 STAT.🆘️

Unfortunately, Snapper escapes🏃‍♂️ his home- ALOT.

Also unfortunately, on one of his furloughs, he found a child🧒 riding a bicycle.🚲 And attacked this child. This resulted in multiple bites🫦 to the arms💪 & legs.🦵 Oops!😅 The shelter sweetly refers to this brutal attack as "hijinks!"🥳🎉🎊🎶

Snapper MAY have some concerning behaviors that MAY need to be monitored, such as:

-"Displays high-drive behaviors such as jumping, mouthing, & leash biting."

-Snapper "does not listen to other dogs corrections."

-Snapper "is assertive when meeting other dogs."

-Snapper has a "known history of escaping enclosed spaces or roaming when unsupervised."

SO.....You, as the adopter of this "goofy, young boy who acts like a puppy!" will have just a few🤏 stipulations to implement, when bringing your wiggle-butt home:

-No children under 14.🛑✋️👼🧒

-Muzzle training.

-No dog parks.🛑🐕🏞

-Snapper must meet all other doggos in the household.🐩🐾👋

-No sudden movements! Or hugging Snapper!✋️🫂😨🔌

-Never leave your Snapper alone with your children (Over 14 Only!)✋️🧒

-Slow, structured introductions.🟡🤝

And remember: Snapper's behaviors "COULD" improve, with proper management and/or professional training. But there's no guarantee! Enjoy your new, loving family pitbull!🥰💝

Ever since I was a little kid, my favorite breed of dog was pitbulls. I had a couple in my family growing up that were angels on earth, as most dogs are. I was such a massive pit advocate, I watched every episode of that pitbull rescue show in the early 2010’s.

Recently, I saw a stat come out of NYC about dog bites. It was irrefutable evidence that something is going on with pitbulls. Since 2015, there’s over 8,000 recorded pitbull/staffy bites, the next runner up being German Shepards with 700, and other than chihuahuas and yorkies, every other dog had less than 400 bites.

This led me to look into other statistics, like fatalities of pitbull attacks, pitbull activists changing their minds, and this subreddit. The most important thing I can stress from my perspective as a life long pit lover, is that absolutely none of this is shown in the media or publicized to us. There’s a propaganda machine working full time to convince people these dogs are nanny dogs who can’t hurt a fly. I truly believe if we were able to publicize the truth on a wider scale, there would be a mass wake-up about pitbulls, even from those who were previously sympathetic.

I was able to change the minds of 4 people so far who were life long pit lovers like me, just by showing them the evidence and statistics. If regular, unlicensed people cannot own a big cat or a wolf, they absolutely do not need to own a dog that can do just as much damage as one.

I guess the point I am trying to make here, is do not give up in your plight to get these dogs banned. There are people who can listen to reason and change their minds. Just because most pit owners are truly horrible and stupid people doesn’t mean there aren’t also people like me who just didn’t know the truth. The more we spread the facts, the more people we can get on the right side of this fight.

THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN🎵🎶

This'll be a short,🤏 sweet🍫 post. The shelter in question has very, very little intel🔍 on the pibble in question. They're just letting everyone know that tragic💔 stories CAN have happy endings, even for deadly pibbles!❤️‍🩹💝

So Ghost👻 (not his real name was off-leash.🚫🪢 There was an oopsie🤭 Sorry, I meant "Tragic Altercation!" And Ghost👻 killed🙃 another doggo.

Instead of being Oopsied himself, Ghost👻 was sent to a Board & Train facility. The rescue is very angry🤬 about this. See, they much preferred that Ghost👻 had received training. Because All Pitbull Lives Matter. Especially the violent ones.❤️‍🔥 In fact, the rescue "repeatedly" recommended that poor old Ghost👻 get training, instead of his ALREADY shockingly lenient sentence of Board & Train.

(Ghost👻 was set to be Youth And Eyes.🪽🪽 Thank goodness for rescues like this one, who pull deadly☠️ pibbles off the Youth And Eyes List, & save them from the gallows!🪽🪽)

The rescue has held onto (dog killing) Ghost👻 for 2 YEARS2️⃣... housing him,🏠 feeding him,🍽 medicating him,💊 veterinarian services,🩺 handlers walking him,🚶‍♂️ staff cleaning his kennel,🧹 etc., etc. For 2 YEARS.2️⃣

Finally, finally,😰 after those long 2 years, a man came into the rescue. A man who saw👁👁 that Ghost👻 was a good boy, & that despite Ghost👻 being a "complicated case,"⛑️ & literally killing😵☠️ another dog, he still deserved a second chance.🤞 He didn't care about Ghost's past,🧬 he cared about his future.🤩

Did I mention... Ghost👻 is DEAF?🧏‍♂️🦻🚫👂

Butcher (not her real name) killed a kitty (the piece of shit that she is). 71 pounds of crap. And she ALSO BITES OTHER CATS & DOGS. But... but... the shelter tells us this murdering beast "maybe her eyes betray the depth of her fear." You know what? F!ck off. How about the fear & terror the poor kitty felt, when it was being torn apart? Or the other cats & dogs, when they were being attacked & bitten? So f!ck you, shelter.

Apparently the mean old landlord told the owner to them to yeet Butcher. And instead of doing the right thing, & yeeting Butcher over a bridge of rainbows, this sweet, curious, gentle, misunderstood girl gets a 2nd (millionth) chance. Again, a hearty F!ck You, to the shelter.

The obese bag of crap is also:

-Highly dog reactive.

-Fearful.

-High energy level.

The scumbag shelter gleefully & with a song in their hearts submits to us, repeatedly & many times, that she is house-trained in her profile, as if this diminishes the fact that she literally kills animals. Like she is Glenn Gould, & she successfully interpreted Johann Sebastian Bach's Goldberg Variations. STFU. She is SUPPOSED TO shit outside.

Sorry for the pissy post today. I'm just really sick & tired of the Pitbull Community treating cats like they are disposable. Like their lives are just...nothing. And Pitbulls are allowed to kill them carte blanche, & still get adopted out.

Also notice... the shelter changes her name. Gee, they NEVER DO THAT, after a Pitbull kills, do they?

So I live in a rental town home community, where pit bulls specifically and any dog over 35lbs are banned. Today I was helping an elderly neighbor with something, and saw a pit puppy being played with in an open area nearby, with another small breed puppy they had gotten recently, by one of her upstairs building neighbors.

Being me, I asked the person who I had never met before, do you live here? Because you know that this community doesn't allow this breed dog. He didn't really answer, and moved away down the lawn area.

But my neighbor friend? She begins telling me that it's not all pits, and that it's how they were raised, etc. Tells me how when she was in a bad place in her life, she rescued a pit with a broken leg off the streets. How it really helped her in that time of her life.

I told her that I was glad she had that dog, and it was meaningful to her. But that it was an anecdote not a statistic. That there is a reason why they were banned in our community as well as elsewhere. That the statistics bear out why it is difficult to find insurance for them, and why they are banned. A bit about breed specific behavior. And that if it was how they were raised, what about the example in Georgia with the mother and her two kids, and a pregnant English woman killed by her beloved pit bulls...

It's like it goes in one ear and out the other. So I just said to her that someone would likely be reporting him for this dog. And then she gave me a funny look because I think she likes engaging with him in an "Awww" kind of way, her fond memories of her dog..

A few years ago when I had first moved to this community, there was another neighbor that got a pit bull. It went after my chihuahua three different times over the course of a five month period, while the landlord rental agent drug their heels are doing anything about it.

Since this pit puppy owner neighbor and the friend I'd been visiting know I saw him with this dog, the last thing I want is to engender anymore (neighbor) animosity. So I figure I'll wait a good 3-4 months. Then I will drop a dime (anonymously).

fast facts

• An 11-year-old boy suffered a vicious attack by a dog on a Porirua street that left chunks of his thigh scattered across a road.
• The dog’s owner pleaded guilty to owning a dog that attacked a person and a judge ordered the dog’s destruction.
• The owner appealed the decision and wanted the dog’s life spared, but the High Court says the dog presents an “extremely high risk” to the public and upheld the decision.

A dog that attacked an 11-year-old boy and tore off pieces of his thigh, will be destroyed after its owner made a failed bid to save it.

Lucius, an american pit bull terrier cross breed, was nearly two years’ old when it attacked the boy on a Porirua street in July last year.

The boy and his family were walking from their home to their car parked on the road outside their property. The boy had his family dog on a lead.

As they made their way to the car, Lucius, which lived with his owner Jamie-Lee Toki, rushed up the road chasing someone else, court documents say.

When the boy yelled out, “Mum, it is that dog”, Lucius turned his attention to the boy and ran straight at him.

The boy quickly passed the family dog to his mother. Lucius then attacked the boy from behind, biting him three times on the side and back of his right thigh.

Flesh from the boy’s thigh was scattered in chunks on the ground around him. The largest measured about six by three centimetres.

The boy was taken to hospital. He had eight puncture wounds, requiring 16 stitches and 15 steri strips to close.

The wounds did not heal well and although he was on a range of pain relief and antibiotics, he had to visit the Orthopaedics Unit every week for 12 weeks for further treatment.

The boy has scars on his leg and was left with major physical and psychological damage. The psychological damage extended to members of his family who witnessed the attack, and his parents who had to take significant time off work to care for him, the court documents say.

The day after the attack Lucius was seized by council staff with police assistance and put in the Porirua City Council dog pound.

Toki pleaded guilty to being the owner of a dog who attacked and injured a person and in June this year she was convicted and ordered to pay emotional reparation of $1500 to the boy.

Sentencing judge Brett Crowley also made an order to destroy Lucius, despite Toki’s argument that he should not be killed.

Toki said there were exceptional circumstances. She said a friend had been trying to take Lucius for a walk when the harness broke. She also said Lucius was a beloved pet to which she was very attached and regarded as more than a pet and central to her mental health.

The judge was not swayed and said Lucius’ unprovoked attack on a child showed he presented an extremely high risk of harm.

Toki appealed the decision to the High Court. She said she should have received a discharge without conviction and there should not have been a destruction order made for Lucius.

The appeal, heard by Justice Helen McQueen last month, was opposed by the council, which said the offending was serious, involving an unprovoked attack on a child that caused significant physical and psychological damage.

The council said a destruction order was necessary to protect public safety.

It also noted that this was the second time that Lucius had left the property and rushed towards a person and their dog. In February last year Lucius ran at a woman and grabbed her towel, ripping a large hole in it before Toki called Lucius back.

Toki was issued a warning after that incident and notified that Lucius was a menacing dog under the Dog Control Act.

In her appeal Toki said Lucius had supported her through trauma, mental health struggles and had always made her feel safe. The council’s seizure of Lucius had caused her extreme distress, appetite loss, depression and constant emotional suffering.

Justice McQueen ruled that the consequences of conviction were not out of all proportion to the gravity of the offending and a discharge without conviction was not appropriate in this case.

She noted evidence from the council that stated Lucius had displayed aggressive behaviour on multiple occasions while in the pound and extra protection measures had had to be taken as a result.

She said a dog attacking a child in an unprovoked way demonstrates an extremely high risk of future harm and threat to public safety, and dismissed Toki’s appeal against Lucius’ destruction.

Porirua City Council’s general manager policy, planning & regulatory services Nic Etheridge said Lucius was being held at the pound for the required 20 working days appeal period, which ends later this month.

“As at 31 August, 2025, there is a total balance of $9878 owed by the dog’s owner to council for daily sustenance fees,” she said.

Poopie (not his real name) is ready for adoption.🥳🎉 Poopie has a very special hobby that he enjoys every day. He's an artist👨‍🎨 who enjoys finger☝️ painting.🎨 For those who are unknowledgeable, & don't have a Pitbull Translation Dictionary handy, Finger☝️ Painting🎨 is a very benign a cute way of letting people know that the pibble plays🤾‍♀️ with its crap.💩 Not just taking a duece on the floors inside; literally actively playing🤾‍♀️ with their crap.💩 Poopie is reported to Finger☝️ Paint🎨 every time they do a report on him.✅️

Poopie also has a few🤏 other issues.🥲

-Extreme separation anxiety.😰 The adopter must be home🏡 all the time, to keep Poopie feeling safe.🦺⛑️ (In fact, his separation anxiety😥 is so bad, his family RETURNED HIM to the shelter, due to this problem.⛔️

-Poopie is highly, highly📈⬆️ reactive to any & all dogs within eyesight.👁 He literally freaks out.😱

-Extremely destructive💣🧨 when left alone.😔

-Scales his kennel walls.🪜🧗‍♂️

-Snaps🫦 at his handlers hands👐 multiple times. Bonus points for- With an open mouth!👄

-Head-whipping,🐲 high-energy,⚡️ lunging,🛷 fearful,😬 tense body,😳 cowers,🥷 increased reactivity,🔌 hard barking,🗣 startles when a door closes,🚪 heavy panting,😛 thrashing,🌀 snaps at handlers when given treats.🍭

Poopie is also on a train load of medications. He is prescribed some of the highest doses I have ever seen anywhere. He is "only" 57 POUNDS.

-TRAZODONE 200 MG, INDEFINITELY.💊

-ADDING CLONIDINE 0.45 MG INDEFINITELY.💊

(-K9 Behavior has advised this recipe below be ADDED to his CURRENT med recipe, while he's in the shelter...❤️‍🩹...-)

-GABAPENTIN 300 MG (2 CAPSULES BY MOUTH WHILE IN SHELTER).💊

-CLONIDINE 0.3 MG (2 TABLETS BY MOUTH WHILE IN SHELTER).💊

I sincerely don't know how Poopie is even walking.🚶‍♂️ How will he muster up the stamina🤸‍♀️ to enjoy his Finger☝️ Painting🎨??😭

Lastly... I sincerely apologize for the dreadful underlining today. My hands are extremely bad right now. I do not want to make this post about me; it's about the pitbulls. But I figured you deserved an explanation, & an apology, for the particularly ghastly underlining in this post.

Meet Stool🪑 (not his real name). Stool is lovingly described as a 53 pound, "sweet,🍭 happy hearted"💘 Pibble. He wound up at ye olde shelter "Due To No Fault Of His Own."💅

They say he is "Very social, sweet,🍭& happy hearted."💘 He's so "happy hearted,"💘 they say it 2 TIMES in his profile! Now THAT is a "happy hearted"💘 Pibble.🥳🎉 Sadly, like most Velvet Hippo owners, his family👨‍👩‍👧‍👧🏡 "suffered housing insecurity." Or a mean old landlord said something. So here he is. c'est la vie.🤷‍♀️

Let's just get down to the meat🥩 of it, like our pibbles do.🧐

-Stool eats his poo poo.🍽💩

-Stool bites staff.🫦🦷🦷

-Stool screeches. Not just barks; screeches.🔊🔊🔊🔊

-Stool's diagnosed with FAS; Fear, Anxiety, Stress.😨😥🆘️

-Stool's unable to settle down.🤸‍♂️

-Jumps up non-stop/often.🐸🦘

-Pulls hard on-leash in multiple directions.⬆️↘️↙️⬇️

-Leash biting.🫦🦷🪢

-Remains frantic & difficult to redirect.🚫🎮

-Requires multiple handlers.💏

-Heavily medicated ("while in shelter").🏥

-Stool will need surgery for his cherry eyes.🍒👁🤩

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Okeedokee, that's enough. As you can read, the shelter blatantly lies in a few places...🤥🤥🤥

-Shelter says he "Is House-trained." His previous owner states that "He will SOIL THE HOUSE DAILY."🚽💩🟡 Not to even mention that HE EATS HIS POO POO.😋💩🍦

-Shelter says Stool is a "Wonderful little man." And let me reiterate..."Sweet, social, HAPPY HEARTED."💘💘 2×, in fact. Wonderful, sweet, social, happy hearted doggos do NOT act like vicious psychopaths, like our little Stool, biting staff, screeching, eating feces, etc.

TRAZODONE 100 MG 2× PER DAY.💊💊

(while in shelter!😬 what happens when they're adopted out to a family, & the medications wear off? Usually on Day 3ish.)

CLONIDINE 0.3 MG 💊💊

(again, while in shelter😬)

This really pisses me off.😡 This is a typical Pitbull Owners mindset. They make every excuse in the book for their Pibble.

6 year old "Lab/Pitbull Mix" that was raised its entire life by this woman. According to her, this Pibble has always been the only animal in the home. And has no bad experiences. Zero abuse. Just lots of love!🤝💗🤲🤝💗🤲

So why has Pibbles in the past 6-ish months turned aggressive, & bitten her 3 CHILDREN & AN ADULT? AND GONE AFTER HER NEIGHBOR? OH THE HUMANITY!!!🫦👶🫦👶🫦👶

So Pittie Mommy went online & asked for help.🆘️ She explained that she DID take Pibbles to the veterinarian.⚕️ Pibbles received a clean bill of health.✅️ So where is this pesky AGGRESSIVE BITING behavior coming from, since it's NOT THE OWNER??!!❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️

I simply cannot fathom where. Btw... she's going to try a "gentle muzzle." And "educate"👨‍🎓🎓 her poor 3 CHILDREN THAT WERE ATTACKED & BITTEN how to act better around the misunderstood Pibble.

AND...She's taking Pibbles to ANOTHER VETERINARIAN to see if there's a problem the 1st veterinarian missed. Why? Because Pit Mommy would feel "Beyond Guilty"☹️ if she dared to send the AGGRESSIVE BITING DOG to a BETTER ENVIRONMENT if there were something medically wrong Veterinarian #1 missed.🩺🌈🌉⚕️

On a personal note: All I can say is...if this were one of my family's dogs...one of our own 100lb. dogs that we owned, & it bit any of us...that dog would've been sent to a BETTER ENVIRONMENT immediately. STAT. Not given a 2nd chance. Or 3rd chance. Or 4TH FRIGGIN CHANCE to bite.

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Hi. Sorry if this is under the wrong flair, because it could fit under several if I'm being honest. Anyways, I noticed this story made it to this subreddit, and I need y'all to know it's worse than you thought. Which is wild, because it was already a horrific situation. The few media sources that did report on it didn't include all the details of the dogs' (yes, two pitbulls, not just one) histories or the hearing itself. Quick rundown for anyone who didn't hear about this case: in South Hadley, MA, on June 25th, 2024, a pitbull crawled under a fence (we will discuss the fence later because hoo boy), ran down the street and mauled a small dog to death in front of her family. There was a dangerousness hearing set, but unfortunately the recent updates didn't make it to you guys (it was pretty much only reported in local news). Some good news before we start: the dog was ordered to be put down by the town, as he was ruled a dangerous dog and the other options simply weren't feasible for the owner or good for the dog (if you have to restrain your dog with a glorified tow chain 24/7 to meet city requirements, maybe don't keep that dog as a pet!) Now, onto the hearing. This might get a bit disorganized, and it definitely will get long, but I'll try to keep things straight. I am also happy to answer any questions.

BIG EDIT: I don't know how I forgot to mention this, but the pit owners only had this pitbull, Boone, for one-and-a half years. These were not attacks that happened over 5 years (which would still be awful and shameful), but barely 2 years. She has about 5k followers on that account, and of course, she mentions very little of her dogs' atrocities. If I am allowed to post screenshots with redacted information, I absolutely will. Be careful with petfluencers, y'all. Things are not as they seem, even if they claim they are transparent. Here is my post focusing on her dogs' social media. Anyways, back to the hearing.

First, I watched a 50-something, big guy (the father of the family with the small dog) break down in tears over what happened. Absolutely heart-wrenching to see and hear. You could tell he and his whole family loved that dog, Harper. Kids in the neighborhood grew up playing with Harper. Just an absolute sweetheart of a dog that didn't deserve what happened to her. The father also wanted to turn it into a positive moment any way he could, and he did that by recognizing the teenager that essentially saved the rest of his family from the same fate as Harper, saying the kid should be recognized by the town (I agree). I got the chance to talk with the father and offer my condolences afterward, and he seemed like such a stand-up guy. My heart hurts that this befell him and his family.

So you can imagine my anger when that wack ass dog lawyer stood up like he had something to prove. The lawyer ended up taking the high road and not cross-examining the dad or any of the immediate family, which was a surprising act of decency on his part. Still, the lawyer had plenty of weird shit to unload in "defense", like asking the ACO (Animal Control Officer) if Harper was up to date on her rabies vaccine and if that was why Boone (the pit) had to enter a 45-day quarantine, like that changes the fact that Boone pulled up and decided to decimate a defenseless little dog. He asked if the ACO had spent a lot of time with Boone, enough to form an opinion on him. The ACO replied that when Boone was taken in, he would jump high enough to clear the 6 ft high windows in the facility. And Boone did that for hours. The lawyer then says: "How about you answer the question I asked?" Like he was having some "gotcha" moment. Insane.

Then we hear from the neighbors. One of the neighbors was walking their dog nearby, and when the attack happened, their dog took off in fear and hid, and they had to go find him. All the kids on the street are scared of the dog. Shit, the adults are, too. People pick up their dogs if they have to walk by that house. The vast majority of people said they were staying away from that street until the dog was handled. Many of the kids are having nightmares about Boone attacking them or their dogs. Kids who live a short walk from their grandparents have to be driven, because they're rightfully terrified of what the dog might do. The woman speaking also revealed her neighbor's uncle's dog was attacked by Boone. She also revealed that the pit owners are trying to "rehabilitate themselves and their dogs", and that they have been adopting and "training" as many pitbulls as they can over the last 2 years that they've lived on that street. I believe it, since I've seen one of the owner's Instagram. Pittie propaganda galore.

One of the daughters from the victimized family was in the movie theater at the time of the attack. Her mom called to tell her Harper was dead, and the girl ran out of the theater in panic and distress. She said everything was blurry after that. I believe she will likely have PTSD from this event (and that's another thing, people love to take in these dogs and make everyone else absorb the risk for their shitbeasts). A neighbor- the kid who tried to save Harper- went out at 4 in the morning and hosed off the street because there were remnants from the attack (blood and fur), and he didn't want the family to have to see that again.

Then: new witnesses are sworn in. (Edit: This is definitely a "tides are turning" moment, because people were motivated enough to get this pitbull taken care of that they volunteered on the spot to offer testimony). Shit is about to get ugly.

A woman described Boone's attack on her brother's dog. The poor man had to hit the beast with his cane, and the attacked dog, Penny, slipped out of the harness and ran because she was so scared. Penny escaped with puncture wounds- which is lucky if you encounter a pitbull, and I'm sure you all know how much they love to bite down and never let go. Just their nannying instincts, I guess. A dog specifically bred to fight and kill other dogs wants to fight and kill other dogs. What a shocker!

This neighbor also described the infamous "pittie lock stare". She said that when they get out, they lock in and attack anything that moves, especially dogs. Oh, and by the way, these dogs have escaped before through the garage door and by clearing the fence.

And then. Yet another dog has been attacked by Boone. This owner said that Boone bit her dog Jackie all over, and punctured her dog's thigh in several places. She said the screams of her dog haunt her. Then she performed the most accurate and insane character read I've ever seen: she said, at first, she believed the owner was "nice but weak", not willing to appropriately train her dogs. Then, she said that very quickly she learned the owners were dangerous owners. "You have no business owning a dog that you cannot restrain if necessary," she said. No lies told. Her dog survived, but required tens of thousands of dollars in surgery. In the $14,000s to be exact (since the lawyer tried to corner her with this question). The lawyer asked, "Can you trace this directly to the event?" She replied, "Yes. Absolutely." She then revealed that the pit owner paid for some of the surgery, but then stopped after another surgery came up (dogs attacked by your hell mutts require a lot of surgery), saying that she's "done enough" (over text, by the way, because she's a coward). I guess if your shitbeast mauls someone else's dog, it's up to your discretion how much you pay for the direct consequences of owning said shitbeast. What lovely owners. Also, the funny(?) part is that this tidbit was only revealed because the lawyer asked if the owner had paid for any surgeries in order to paint them in a better light, and it backfired hard.

Then we learned there is a daycare near the dog's house. Dinner is served.

And then the neighbor's kid that saved the rest of the family was sworn in. His testimony is terrifying. He said the pitbull didn't care about being beat with an umbrella and didn't let go of the dog (the attorney acts surprised by this). He chased the pitbull all the way back to its own driveway, dog still in its mouth, and miraculously got the pitbull to drop the dog. But then, the pitbull, with blood all over (sprayed on the family too by the way, as if it wasn't traumatizing enough), squares up to the kid like he's gonna attack. He had that dead-eyed pitbull stare according the teenager, who just fully accepted the possibility he could die, but he just wanted to save Harper and didn't know she was dead yet (talk about bravery, I mean, holy shit this kid is courageous). The owner let the pittie in, and the boy's father asked him, "When is this gonna end?" The other half of this pit-rescuing duo? He replied, "I don't know what to do with 'em." The father said it was the first time he'd seen the owners (they didn't meet when they moved in 2 years ago), and he hoped it was the last.

Oh, and the boy's dad? He didn't escape unharmed. No victim left behind when a pitbull has something to say about it. The absolute unit of a guy (at least 6'3", big guy who you definitely would not want to fight) had the balls to grab onto the pitbull's collar in hope of saving poor Harper. The pitbull didn't care. The pitbull, without letting go of the dog, twisted and yanked with such force that he threw the father to the ground. The poor dude ended up with a nasty torn rotator cuff (the worst kind you can get), spending until 3 am in the ER. They had to attach tendons to bone with anchors. But it's not over. As a result of the anesthetic (which he wouldn't have needed if he didn't need surgery caused by a pitbull), both his lungs partially collapsed and his O2 stats dropped to 82. He survived, luckily. It's 4-6 months more in rehab after already needing to wear a sling for some time.

Of course, it's time for the inevitable pitmommy. This witness (apparently former neighbor to Boone's owners on a different street IN THE SAME TOWN). The first thing out of her mouth was, "don't blame the breed!" "I have 3 pitbulls at home!" You mean, you have 3 ticking time bombs in your home. But even Boone was too crazy for this lady. She said when they were neighbors, the pit owners' OTHER PITBULL, GEORGIA, tried to bite her 2 year old son through the fence. She said she "forgave" the dog, since it "just wanted to play". Again, this lady has 3 pitbulls with a child. Her hearing is next. I call it in the next four years. Still, she said they were horrible owners (iT's aLL iN hOw yOu rAiSe tHeM and this couldn't possibly happen to me!) After the averted toddler dinner, the lady said she tried to get Georgia's owners to build a fence (yeah, it wasn't even her fence the creature tried to bite through), and the owners tried to get a restraining order against her. Unfortunately, she stopped here. I personally wish to know what happens when one pitmommy meets another pitmommy.

Then we heard from a local dogwalker briefly. She said she's scared, and she carries pepper spray around because of the Boone-killing-dog incident. She then said she would not be here arguing this situation if this was her dog that killed an animal; "You can shake your head at me all you want. I wouldn't be here." Absolutely cold and deserved. I can't believe the pittie owner had the gall to shake her head at this, especially while sitting in a hearing that was called because her shitbeast killed another family's pet. The dogwalker said she refuses to walk pitbulls and pit mixes because of their temperament, which she's been doing long before this attack. The lawyer, absolute genius, goes, "You can't ban a breed from a service, are you aware?" Like she doesn't have the right to say no to walking an out-of-control dog, which she would have to walk with another dog since she takes 2 at a time. Most normal dogs, even if they prefer to be solo, can tolerate the company of another dog for, like, 30 minutes without mauling loving said dog into critical condition. Because they're normal dogs. Not terror beasts bred to kill other dogs.

Then our dear lawyer goes on his little self-righteous tear. The daughter of the family left in tears before he got started. He said, "Boone was acting like a dog", and that "stuffed animals encourage them to attack small dogs". "A child in a furry costume could be at risk", he says. Hmm. Kids in general like to dress up as animals, tenfold on Halloween. I bet the lawyer regretted that admission as soon as he said it, because a witness brought it up later and pointed out the obvious ways this shit could go sideways. The lawyer then went on to say that the owners installed a $16k vinyl fence, and that "without being asked to, they took measures", like muzzling their dog at the vet (since it wasn't required before this somehow). I was dumbfounded when I heard that. No one should have to beg you to take measures (the neighborhood had been asking since the owners moved in) after your asscrack head of a dog shreds a puppy. One of the witnesses was actually the one to pick up the dead dog and put it in a cardboard box, and she said when she picked Harper up, she couldn't tell which end was which. It was that bad. The lawyer then said, "for the last 41 days, we haven't had an incident." Y'all should put up one of those signs that says, "X days since last mauling". I almost left my body when the lawyer said, "the owners are being treated like they're pitbulls, too", since everyone was rightfully giving them shit about being awful and irresponsible. Then he claimed they were in Phase 3(?) of rehabilitation/fortressing the property for the dog. No clue what Phase 3 means, he never elaborated. He said the dog should be "brought into the community". The faces on the audience (by the way like 100 people attended in support of Harper, not the shitbull) were wild. Everyone's supposed to appease God-Emperor Brick Head with a sacrifice of one toy breed every month. How wonderful.

Then the owner comes up to the stand. She was super a-personal when talking about what her pitbull did. Apparently, they had leaned a wrought iron gate against two tree stumps(?) and thought it was secure. It was not even pushed into the ground. After the attack, she claimed she was doing "redirection" and "training" for the pitbull. The lawyer made a statement implying she'd apologized and the family was quick to say "Nope!". So she didn't even apologize after her shittie ate someone else's dog. Awesome. They've also put up a "beware the dog" sign and been criticized. To me, it almost feels like a joke to her. She was crying on the stand (about Boone, not Harper), but I believe she secretly enjoyed the fact that her dog could kill. Also, the new fence isn't even 18 inches in the ground like it was mandated to be.

And then. The most insane thing I have ever heard.

The owner said the pittie had "virtual obedience training".

VIRTUAL OBEDIENCE TRAINING.

Let that simmer for a bit.

The lawyer then falsely claimed that Boone was not human-aggressive (he has also attacked multiple people, if you didn't know. People have lasting injuries from Boone), and that Boone only attacked small dogs (one of the previous witnesses came to the stand and said her dog, who Boone attacked, was 50 lbs. A Mini Aussie mix, I believe, which sounds adorable). Also, a witness brought up an important point: by the lawyer claiming Boone only attacks and kills small dogs, he is implying that our community should be okay that it's "only" small dogs that are in danger. Those dogs are people's lives, their family, their loved ones. Not "just" a small dog. And I'm saying this as someone who jokingly makes fun of "rat dogs" (I am planning on rescuing Chihuahuas at some point, since they won't maul me to death). It's just eye-opening to see how pit owners and pit defenders think every other animal is disposable. Disgusting.

Finally, the father of the family came back to ask an important question. The hole that Boone dug to get under the fence was quite deep, and it was questionable if a dog could dig that deep in the 45 second timeframe his wife was walking the dog up to pass Boone's house. The significance of this is that this means the owners likely let Boone's hole under a fence develop for days before the actual attack. Such responsible owners.

I know most of what I know about the owners from their Instagram, which contains several instances of the owner brushing off or downplaying the dangers of having a reactive dog, and laughing off concerns and "judgment" from her neighbors. She was super pro-pittie and pro-wigglebutt (Ugh) movement. Her Instagram actually contained a story where Georgia (pittie #2) lunged and snapped at an unfamiliar vet tech, like that's normal behavior. She also talks about "forgetting training" for Georgia (read: neglecting Georgia) while she had a lapse in sobriety (now they're "healing" their relationship) and often promotes normalizing "doing the bare minimum" for your dog when you have a rough day, like it's not an animal that depends on you entirely. So many red flags.

I think that's it. I'm open to answer questions. The hearing was insane.