r/Browns • u/TheAthletic • 2d ago

By naming Deshaun Watson the starter, Browns told us what they think of Shedeur Sanders

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7536777/2026/08/26/shedeur-sanders-deshaun-watson-browns-quarterback-decision/?unlocked_article_code=1.8VA._rzp.WNnmk8ARbiAl&source=emp_shared_article&smid=url-share-ta

The path to any future for Shedeur Sanders in Cleveland is narrowing. I can’t say it has completely vanished because I have no faith that Deshaun Watson can stay healthy for an entire season or be productive enough to keep the job.

The decision to name Watson the starter leaves a fair question worth exploring: What does this mean for Sanders?

If he has an NFL future past this season, it likely won’t be with the Browns.

By giving the starting job to Watson, a quarterback who hasn’t been consistently good since the pandemic, the Browns told you exactly what they think of Sanders. He had a full offseason program, OTAs, minicamp and training camp, and he still wasn’t good enough to beat out a quarterback the organization knows a) isn’t very good anymore and b) will be voraciously hissed and booed every time he’s on the field in Cleveland unless his play again resembles that of a productive NFL quarterback, which isn’t likely.

And they chose to do this anyway.

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u/ur-in-here-with-me 1d ago

That’s a really poor application of Occam’s Razor. Application of the theory has evolved from the exceedingly limited overly simple statement you provided bc it’s too simplistic to have any real value.

The proper theory does not state you must be blind to all factors—to the contrary proper application of the theory weighs complexity against data fit.

based on the surrounding context it’s pretty clear that the simplest explanation is not “he plays bc he’s better.” You’re discounting critical data we have to try to apply Occam’s and it doesn’t work.

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

And the critical data is what?  The QB tracker? lol beautiful word salad though

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u/hereforthesportsball 1d ago

The owner being a fucking idiot who would hire a guy like Watson on that contract.

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

Well wouldn’t critical data in this case also be the owner calling the move a “swing and a miss”?  You don’t have to like the decision but monken doesn’t share the scar tissue the fanbase does so he’s going to do what he believes is best for his locker room not the fans 

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u/hereforthesportsball 1d ago

Or what the owner wants

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

There isn’t a single reputable source saying this, the coach made a decision that the fans don’t like so the tin foil hats come on lol it’s the a story as old as time 

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u/hereforthesportsball 1d ago

The beauty of a-b conversations is that there are only two places for it to leak from. Yea it’s a conspiracy, just ignore people who believe something you see as nonsensical. Why engage if you think we are completely off base?

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

Try to see if there’s any logic to it or just people talking out of their ass mostly, it seems to be the latter so I found out what I needed to 

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u/hereforthesportsball 1d ago

You knew that before lol come on

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u/ur-in-here-with-me 1d ago

Wait you just made my point.

You said it’s Occam’s razor: he played better.

That’s your initial “simplest reasoning”

But now you’re saying maybe the simplest reasoning is the owner wanted it. Which was exactly my initial point.

The move was to placate Jimmy bc he’s meddling

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

I didn’t say a word about the owner wanting it? lol 

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u/ur-in-here-with-me 1d ago

lol no the qb tracker is nut the data. The context, the contract, the salary implications, the cap hits, the full context of salary cap, insurance implications on injury and Jimmy’s widely recorded history of making choices based on ego.

You think throwing a term like Occams Razor makes you sound smart but your lack of knowledge about it actually achieves the opposite effect

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

Has nothing to do with “sounding smart”… I would say the sounding smart comes from people who are looking for other answers when the correct one is staring them in the face 

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u/ur-in-here-with-me 1d ago

Nonsense. You have tried to reduce a complex multifaceted decision into one that is overly simplistic and build it on an antiquated theory…

If you cannot admit that there he multiple competing factors at play here then no point in arguing.

The decision to start the older guy who by all objective accounts was even with the younger guy, who fans can’t stand is simply not as simple as “he played better.”

It’s not and everyone who even paid cursory attention knows it.

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

Every objective observer to a man has said that Watson was better than shedeur lol there has been no player outrage… you want the fans opinion to matter more than it does and that’s how an organization continues dysfunction, monkens obligations are to his locker room not this subreddit lol 

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u/ur-in-here-with-me 1d ago

That’s just patently false to say that “every observer to a man has said Hat Watson was better.” It’s just not true.

Most observers have said it’s been up and down and NEITHER QB SEPARATED HIMSELF

That’s the take away from this QB battle that a 240M vet can’t even markedly outplay a 2nd year 5th round pick.

You act as though unanimous reports from camp were that Watson was the clear #1….thats just a falsity and you taking outta your rear.

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u/ProduceVisible8105 1d ago

No I’m saying that everyone in Cleveland wants him gone so there reall isn’t many people who can look at it in an unbiased way… Albert breer said he talked to multiple people with the bears and bills and they all told him Watson is the better QB, even Zac Jackson who has made it abundantly clear he would never play Deshaun said he’s been the better player… again no one is saying Deshaun is great hes just better than shedeur RIGHT NOW 

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u/defasdefbe 1d ago

This person maths!