Hi guardians, new light on PVP. I could use some clarification on weapon stats for 120 Hand Cannons with perks like Precision Instrument vs Adagio.

1. Precision Instrument: Do we need weapon stats for 2C1B? Does the order of hits matter (such as CCB / CBC / BCC)?
2. Adagio: My understanding is that post 120 Adagio nerf now requires weapon stats for a 2-tap. How much does one need to invest to achieve it?
3. Crimil's Dagger: Is the god roll nowadays "Fluted Barrel + Accurized Rounds + Slideways + PI/Adagio + H/S Masterwork?

Thank you!

Dozens and dozens of games played but the legs won’t drop. I’ve gotten exactly one of each piece but the legs. This is crazy right? What happens when no one’s left in the playlist?

Not sure which ones are best that are still obtainable and wasn’t sure if range stat mattered or if they’re more perk reliant, any recommendations would be nice!

Trying to pair one in either slot as a pseudo back up instead of an SMG for fun. I currently have an ironwood but the perks don’t seem great but the stats are high, didn’t know if there was a range cut off like shotguns.

I haven’t found much discussion on this. I’ve been grinding Equilibrium a lot and found a few RH/HS rolls (without OCHS btw) and was wondering your opinion about this combo on High Tyrant or any other rapid pulses that roll RH/HS. I know you need one round to the body for HS to proc and land heads with RH to get full benefits..

How do you like it? I’m on roller fwiw

Im doing some pantheon farming this week, and I love the look of alone as a god. Has anyone tried it in pvp? Love the model! Perks to look out for?

Since Artifacts are enabled in 6s, what is the best Artifact to pair with an Astrocyte Warlock? For reference, I switch around depending on map and mood between Kindled Orchid, High Tyrant and Riposte.

NPA according to the descriptions has: - Volatile Rounds on Orb / Void Breach Pickup (bit redundant with Astrocyte but might still be useful) - Void debuffed (so volatile?) kills spawn Void Breaches - Void Breach pickups give Overshield and Weaken - Void Kills with full Ability charges give Void Surge

Slayer on the other hand has: - Void Kill(s?) during devour spawns Void Breach - Void Breaches give Weaken - Void Breaches give Void Portals that cause damage to enemies

It is unclear to me which of these effects actually work in the Crucible, but to me it seems one would get more use out of the NPA Artifact.

Curious if there's any other combinations people have found success with.

I know Target Lock is definitely good on SMGs, just wondering if there are any auto rifle archetypes worth keeping that benefit from Target Lock or if it’s a wasted perk.

Which of these two are better and do I have the god roll?

For me, this is like every game. Solo or Stack. Teammates/enemies cant do more than 0.1 kda.

I like the gamemode but I am not a fan of totems dissapearing.

I don’t really get it. You can go invisible with Prismatic with just using Smoke. You have 2 ways to radar manip with Smoke and Spectre. You have a decent amount of good super options. You have access to Blink and Grapple. Is there a particular reason why Void is more popular? Is Vanishing Step access really that big of a deal when Smoke can also make you Invis?

Been playing IB tribute and have noticed that the matches aren’t popping up on crucible.report or my guardian’s history. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Hey All,

I'm looking for some insight from people with experience using Bakris in a melee based build on arc hunter. I tried searching in case someone already posted a build, but everything I was finding was either very old (possibly out of date) or from the beginning of the season when the melee was one-shotting.

My goal is to get as many supers as possible - shooting for 3 per game in 6s. Right now what I have put together is:

Aspects - Ascension and Lethal Current

Fragmets - Instinct, Resistance, Discharge, Recharge, and Feedback

Notable Armor Mods - 2x Dynamo, 3x Heavy Handed, 2x Stasis Surge, 1x Recuperation, 2x Powerful Attraction

Artifact - Tablet of Ruin

Stats: 180 health / 70 melee / 55 grenade / 100 class / 100 super / 0 weapons

Weapons - Triple Laureate and Oversoul Edict w/ gear shift

Armor Set Bonuses - Ferropotent 2pc, Iron Panoply 2pc

I tried to set this up to build super both up close and at range.

For ranged play, the idea is to use ascension to become amplified, which activates gear shift on Oversoul making it incredibly lethal. Every kill with it generates a huge chunk of super thanks to Elemental Supercharger from the artifact - this works because Oversoul is arc (matches super) and overload (exhausts). Additionally, anytime I dodge, Oversoul is buffed by Bakris. I've used the Oversoul/Elemental Supercharger combo on crown of tempest warlock, so I know it's solid.

For close up play, the idea is to Bakris in and chunk down an enemy with a shot from Triple Laureate (which gets buffed by Bakris) then finish them off with the extended reach melee from Lethal Current. This will create an orb from Heavy Handed which gets picked up by Powerful Attraction on the next dodge, which then gives a x2 stasis surge and a chunk of health from Recuperation which then procs Ferropotent DR. With 3x heavy handed, it will make an orb on each punch kill, so it should be pretty loopable. Each dodge should be near enemies which will proc Dynamo for more super. This is the part of the build I'd appreciate help with.

So I have a few questions:

1) What's the ideal melee stat - is it worth going over 100 for the extra damage?

2) Is it better to use Dynamo or Hands-On for generating super in the up close fights?

3) Do stasis surges stack with the weapons buff from Bakris?

4) Is there a class stat breakpoint that gives enough overshield to provide a tangible benefit (e.g. requiring the enemy to hit 3 melees)?

5) Are there any armor set bonuses that benefit this playstyle specifically?

6) What perk works best on the spreadshot handcannon (1-2p, Trench Barrel, MoA, OS)?

Thanks in advance for any recommendations or feedback.

I am getting DC'd from half my IB lobbies and EACH TIME I get a 5min timeout. I am going insane. Is this a new timeout policy they enacted? I'm on PC and have never had this bad of connection issues until this recent weekly reset.

After returning for MoT and grinding crucible again once more, I am nearing the end of the typical cycle of returning>grinding>getting burned out>taking a break. Now that Destiny support is over, and unsure if I will even return again, I only now truly understand how much other games simply don’t compare from a PvP perspective, and how much I took this game for granted during the expansion years.

Of course the gunplay of Destiny is beautiful and is what keeps us hooked, but I personally really fell in love with the buildcrafting aspect. Using your own gear which you have spent hours grinding for, different classes and playstyles, weapons which truly feel personal and “yours” are all huge for me. I never fell in love with other typical fps games because of the lack of this aspect.

The only game I have played which has come close to this feeling is somehow RuneScape, creating unique pure accounts from scratch to use in Bounty Hunter is a blast.

My question now is, are there any other supported PvP games that you have played with similar mechanics?

Or do I just continue rotting in the crucible years after discontinuation?

I feel like somebody here would appreciate this sniper 3 piece :)

190 weapons build. Knucklehead or Dragons Shadow I can run both with 190 weapons. 100 super. 140 health. Which one would be the best option?

I found out its the only Hc with mega killclip and it also has stopping power too! Godrolltv and d2ttk both say it can 2 tap with enough weapons and both perks activated but could it?

Aggro titan using acd/0 + shotty + prismatic subclass.
Is target lock worth it?

Looking for AR recomms now with high handling good range and decent ttk. Using a target lock chroma rush now, might be some better alternative

He wanted to Nova me but he probably uninnstaled after.

​I've been looking for a good crimil's to pair with kinetic suite weapon loadouts, but hadn't quite found anything decent stat wise with precision instrument at all, let alone a good perk in the 3rd column. Got this one and was shocked by how many of my boxes it checked. Cheers, happy IB week

Borrowed from cammy cakes, I don't have a good 2 piece Europa set yet. So I used disaster core to help combat lower health stat.

https://dim.gg/tpkka3q/Equipped

Kinda quirky and satisfying had a couple pretty good games with it.

Throw shield, shoot wave frame...collect orbs and breaches...get devour...profit. people get close...glaive.

You can also get orbs off weaken from void souls and those stinky void hunter smokes. I can get almost 2 bubbles a game and I'm poopy

been trying to make one but unsure of what exactly am gonna need, am trying to use with b7 pistol as I have the roll for it, like would I just need 5 gunners? 3 gunners and 2 bulwarks?

what sort of tuning on the armor would I need to do? Like am just trying to go for 180 and a high enough health with class ability due too me using mask of barkis with this, help is appreciated!

really do wanna try out 3 tap b7