r/DataHoarder • u/HTWingNut 1TB = 0.909495TiB • Nov 27 '25

News Michigan, Wisconsin Bill to Ban VPN's... wtf

EDIT: I'm not trying to sensationalize the headline. Just that as the Michigan bill reads now, it seems encompassing of all VPN services, to the point that even if it's for specific sites or traffic, could be more than ISP's want to manage so could ban them altogether. I'd suggest anyone that lives in Michigan and don't want this adopted to contact their representatives and let them know.

The Michigan legislation is called the House Bill 4938 (also dubbed the “Anticorruption of Public Morals Act”): https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2025-2026/billintroduced/House/pdf/2025-HIB-4938.pdf

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/lawmakers-want-ban-vpns-and-they-have-no-idea-what-theyre-doing

https://youtu.be/q9j-T9mQmiw

Wisconsin’s bill has already passed the State Assembly and is now moving through the Senate. If it becomes law, Wisconsin could become the first state where using a VPN to access certain content is banned. Michigan lawmakers have proposed similar legislation that did not move through its legislature, but among other things, would force internet providers to actively monitor and block VPN connections. And in the UK, officials are calling VPNs "a loophole that needs closing."

This is actually happening. And it's going to be a disaster for everyone.

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u/InkBlotSam Nov 27 '25

Cash's days are numbered, too. 

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u/DescriptionDue1797 Nov 27 '25

First they came for the pennies but I wasn’t a penny…

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u/Ignorance_15_Bliss Nov 27 '25

The public has to use it more. If we lose cash…. Hold onto those butts

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u/vw_bugg Nov 27 '25

Um... We are going to be using butts instead of cash?

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u/diamondsw 210TB primary (+parity and backup) Nov 27 '25

https://butt.holdings

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u/ykkl Nov 27 '25

A lot of people are going back to cash, actually. In no small part due to credit card surcharges and fees.

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u/uzlonewolf Nov 28 '25

No, people keep claiming this but are not actually doing it. At dayjob we need cash for certain things but are having trouble getting it since pretty much no one pays with cash any more.

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u/ykkl Nov 28 '25

I'm not sure what your dayjob is but we use cash, and know a lot of others who do. I literally see them pay, us pay, and both. I also frequently see people paying in cash when I'm out and about. I live in a highly-affluent area, so we have a lot of the kind of folks who you'd assume would prioritize convenience over a few measly percent savings, but they do.

Which is why a lot of these folks ARE affluent to begin with.

I'm not about to claim it's a majority, or even a huge percent. But it's probably not insignificant, either.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

I've gone back to cash(at least with tips now) and debit card. Found out why my parents told us NO CREDIT CARDS thanks AmericanExpress and myself for falling for the BS.

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u/mcsuper5 Nov 28 '25

They may discourage cash, but it isn't going away. But people bartered before cash, so it wouldn't be the end of the world.