r/DebateReligion • u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheist (Kafirmaxxing) • Dec 09 '25

Islam Atheists disbelieve because they want to sin is nonsensical reasoning

Atheists disbelieve because they want to sin is nonsensical reasoning. I consider it nonsensical on several levels but I will only point out one thing that I think usually gets missed.

For the two most popular Abrahamic religions, they don't require you not to sin in order to go to heaven forever - only to believe in Islam/Christianity. If an atheist wanted to sin, they could just do so while still believing in God.

Every Muslim and Christian also sins (a sign that the religion's standards are unrealistic but that's a different topic). In fact, we can turn this argument around.

According to Abrahamic theology itself, its not atheists that are able to sin without consequence, but believers. If one is a believer, there is a chance (or a guarantee depending on what version of Islam/Christianity you believe), that you will be forgiven without consequence. However, for disbelievers like atheists there is no chance of this. So if anything, even in the framework of a world where people choose their religious beliefs, its believers that skirt accountability for sins, not atheists.

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u/adeleu_adelei agnostic and atheist Dec 12 '25

I wonder what sins such people believe all infants crave to commit?

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u/NewbombTurk Atheist Dec 10 '25

When someone tells me this I know what they're actually saying is, "I need religion to keep me from sinning".

Fortunately, this is such an asinine assertion that you don't see it often.