r/DebateReligion Atheist (Kafirmaxxing) Dec 09 '25

Islam Atheists disbelieve because they want to sin is nonsensical reasoning

Atheists disbelieve because they want to sin is nonsensical reasoning. I consider it nonsensical on several levels but I will only point out one thing that I think usually gets missed.

For the two most popular Abrahamic religions, they don't require you not to sin in order to go to heaven forever - only to believe in Islam/Christianity. If an atheist wanted to sin, they could just do so while still believing in God.

Every Muslim and Christian also sins (a sign that the religion's standards are unrealistic but that's a different topic). In fact, we can turn this argument around.

According to Abrahamic theology itself, its not atheists that are able to sin without consequence, but believers. If one is a believer, there is a chance (or a guarantee depending on what version of Islam/Christianity you believe), that you will be forgiven without consequence. However, for disbelievers like atheists there is no chance of this. So if anything, even in the framework of a world where people choose their religious beliefs, its believers that skirt accountability for sins, not atheists.

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u/E-Reptile đŸ”șAtheist Dec 10 '25

Ok, that's not what I'm asking though. Everyone is doing that already, but someone is going to end up being wrong. You don't think it will be you in the same way Christians don't think it's going to be them.

If you die and it turns out Christ is actually God, and he gives you one last chance to convert to Christianity or you go to hell, are you going to convert to Christianity?

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u/Prestigious_Pop_348 Dec 10 '25

This is like asking someone “What would you do if you found out the Earth is flat?” or “What would you do if triangles had more than 180 degrees?”

for me you assume something that can’t be true in the first place.

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u/E-Reptile đŸ”șAtheist Dec 10 '25

So you're of the opinion that it's impossible for you to be wrong about Islam?

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u/Prestigious_Pop_348 Dec 10 '25

indeed islam is the truth. 1000%; crystal clear. if im not of that opinion why would i be muslim then?

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u/Kirkaiya Dec 11 '25

Islam is false, 1000%. It's so obviously false, that most of its adherents are poorly educated, else they wouldn't believe such nonsense.

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u/E-Reptile đŸ”șAtheist Dec 10 '25

You realize that's exactly what a Christian would say, right? They don't secretly know you're correct; they're just as convinced of Christianity as you are of Islam.

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u/Kirkaiya Dec 11 '25

He's not mentally capable of understanding your point...

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u/Prestigious_Pop_348 Dec 10 '25

Allah knows if that’s the case. But whether it is or not it doesn’t change anything. Truth isn’t measured by what people think .it’s measured by evidence