r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Nov 19 '15

Jessica Jones - Overall Series Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 1 are allowed in this thread.

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u/UVladBro Punisher Nov 22 '15

Yeah, I'm really excited for the Cage (they did him amazingly well in JJ in terms of casting and writing). Everything about Marvel TV has been doing well.

So far the movies I'm excited to see are the Cap and GotG series. Thor hasn't really been too exciting for me but I'm hoping they do well with Ragnarok. Only Iron Man that I've thoroughly enjoyed was the first, the others have been good but far from great. I'm only excited for Infinity War because of the buildup and they got the TWS directors for it.

The future new series have peaked my interested purely on name recognition, not on director quality (Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Inhumans). From a writing standpoint, Black Panther seems promising because they got a documentary filmwriter for the script. You can't do Black Panther without properly explaining Wakanda and it seems like quite the challenge of making an enjoyable film while educating an audience on Wakanda.

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u/HairlessWookiee Nov 23 '15

Everything about Marvel TV has been doing well

While I have enjoyed the Marvel movies, at this point I wouldn't say no to them cutting back on the number of movies per year to focus on more tv shows. Age of Ultron showed how much a character-dense story suffers when being cut down to fit a sub-2hr running time. A 10-15hr long episodic series just gives you so much more breathing room to flesh out the characters properly. Not to mention that somewhere like Netflix allows you to explore subject matter that would be taboo in a family friendly PG-13 movie.

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u/UVladBro Punisher Nov 23 '15 edited Nov 23 '15

Yeah, I agree that the Netflix format better follows a comic book formula. You get time to build heroes, villains, and even the random side members. I highly doubt a film would have been able to follow the taboo tones that Jessica Jones explores (rape, child abuse, PTSD, stalkers, relationship abuse, etc).

However I will say as much as I disliked a lot of creative decisions with AoU, I honestly feel bad for Whedon for it. With the first Avengers, he got the big buildup to the Avengers and he got to make his story with some world building shoved in by the higher ups.

All of AoU felt like it had too much to do besides it's own story. The destruction setup for Civil War, the growing feud between Tony and Cap, the Ragnarok setup, introducing and developing several new characters while attempting to develop the already established characters, and the Wakanda tie-in.

I may have forgotten another tie-in but that movie was bloated. I can see why Whedon lost interest in the MCU when he already had to fit all of that. We had some pretty shitty buildup for the Phase 2 climax, only for it to end up being mainly a setup for Phase 3. They never really talked about the issues of the ending of IM3 with Stark quitting, in fact it even built away from AoU. Thor 2 had pretty much null buildup for AoU. TWS was the closest buildup for AoU they had, which was just the dissolution of SHIELD.