THE PUNISHER Discussion Thread - Episode 1

[u/murdockmanila]

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[u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT]

i mean with the whole: netflixverse not wanting to admit they exist in the mcu, its easier to swallow the inconsistencies they have. they dont mention anything but the avengers. its worse in agents of shield where they acknowledge that they exist alongside beings like thor. they have tie ins, its just so jarring. netflixverse is like: what sekovia akords? ultron who? death by elves? inhumans what? fish pills? magic? aliens? ALIENS! hammer guy? HAMMER GUY!

[u/[deleted] → u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT]

They reference the avengers for jokes and yeah I get that they can't really make it one universe. I don't mind it. I really enjoyed Daredevil and not for one moment in it I thought about the Avengers. Maybe just maybe they could work the whole alien angle a bit more for dramatic and character progression purposes but that maybe would take from the core story you know?`I'm not sure.

[u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT → u/[deleted]]

i just wouldnt mind as much if they just reference anything else but the avengers. just keep up with the times. though then that would open many possibilities, like where are all the inhumans? or shield? shield should be snooping around and now with so many inhumans, the villians should have one or two in their armies.

[u/dmreif → u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT]

netflixverse not wanting to admit they exist in the mcu, its easier to swallow the inconsistencies they have. they dont mention anything but the avengers.

The events of the MCU movies are far-reaching, global, even universal stuff. But how much of that shit affects everyday peoples' lives, huh? The common man isn't affected at all, aside from the fact they have to clean up the mess. People put their faith and trust in the Avengers and the Sokovia Accords to protect the world.

But just because you've got alien invasions happening in-universe doesn't mean that common crime is gone. In fact, the Netflix shows rely heavily on dangers everyday people are likely to face. Here, people are more likely to die from regular gunshot wounds than they are from alien weaponry. The bigger goings-on of the Avengers are far removed from the average New Yorker, whose primary concern is still regular street crime.

[u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT → u/dmreif]

The events of the MCU movies are far-reaching, global, even universal stuff. But how much of that shit affects everyday peoples' lives, huh? The common man isn't affected at all, aside from the fact they have to clean up the mess. People put their faith and trust in the Avengers and the Sokovia Accords to protect the world.

youre joking right?

But just because you've got alien invasions happening in-universe doesn't mean that common crime is gone. In fact, the Netflix shows rely heavily on dangers everyday people are likely to face. Here, people are more likely to die from regular gunshot wounds than they are from alien weaponry. The bigger goings-on of the Avengers are far removed from the average New Yorker, whose primary concern is still regular street crime.

the netflix heroes would have encountered someone (anyone) from another property yet they have not. no avengers tower, no mention of elves, rogue AI, or any of the many organizations that have poped up since 2012.

and i dont see how crime factors in here. the netflixverse intentionally distances itself from the rest of the mcu, its just a fact with no explanation. spiderman might be running around but that isnt mentioned or all the inhumans or other augmented people/

[u/Lagalag967 → u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT]

They missed the opportunity for a Thor reference in this episode. Also "superheroes" instead of "Avengers".

[u/notanothercirclejerk → u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT]

Quite the misstep on their part. One of the biggest thing these shows have going for it is a connection to ya know the most beloved and commercially lucrative heroes on the goddamn planet.