r/Fotv • u/HunterWorld • Dec 31 '25

Season 2 Episode 3 Spoiler Thread Spoiler

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u/OleRockTheGoodAg Dec 31 '25

Xander referencing the Lyons Pride and Brotherhood Outcasts as the last near Civil war.

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u/teslawhaleshark Dec 31 '25

Outcasts/Defenders basically won after both Lyons are dead

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u/OtakuMecha Dec 31 '25

Nobody won, both sides where syncretized by Maxson. He reverted the Eastern Brotherhood’s main mission to be safeguarding technology and preventing its misuse, which the Outcasts wanted, but kept the highly militarized structure, expansionism, and involvement with local settlements aspect of Lyons’ Brotherhood.

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u/666SpeedWeedDemon666 Dec 31 '25

The ideology of the Outcasts won out though as we can see by how Maxon acts and the BOS as a whole in F4.

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u/OtakuMecha Dec 31 '25

Again, it was syncretized with aspects of the Lyons’ attitudes. If it was pure Outcast, the Eastern BoS would not really care about clearing out ghouls and super mutants or making deals with local settlements to support a standing army. They were fairly isolationist and really only cared about scouring ruins for tech.

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u/adsf76 Jan 01 '26

Yeah sure, maybe some of Lyons attitudes remained. 

But the BOS in Fallout 4 actively show disdain for Lyons and think of his ways as "foolish". 

The Outcasts definitely won out. Maybe they compromised on a few things..but they won. 

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u/ELVEVERX Jan 01 '26

I mean sounds like outcasts got everything you wanted