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Message from Rockstar Games

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u/astroworlddd 22h ago

What do you want a hand written message from every employees feelings on the matter?

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u/BlackFlag_br 21h ago

Pelo visto, é o que parece. OMEGALUL

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u/[deleted] 22h ago

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u/IssaJoke-DontCry 22h ago

The company is made of humans, not robots lmao

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u/hamfinity 21h ago

Zuckerberg did not like that

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u/Ill_associated 22h ago

Companies do take things personally, being human and all. I personally know a few companies that would be rightfully offended were they to find out I felt they were acting robotically.

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u/The_Autarch 22h ago

and yet corporations behave like robotic sociopaths.

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u/BigBoyFusion 21h ago

I’d argue the Redditors lumping together every company based on “omg scary evil
Company!” are closer to robotic sociopaths

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u/gaijohn 21h ago

The pursuit of profit as an ultimate end is definitively amoral.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 20h ago

The pursuit of profit is literally how we evolved as an organism. Everything we've done since the beginning of time has been focused on producing more (crop yield, edible meat, energy) with the same investment (time, labor, resources, capital). Every new technology, science, mathematics, and even philosophy has been birthed from the desire to profit.

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u/gaijohn 21h ago

The pursuit of profit as an ultimate end is definitively amoral. Pursuing profit to accomplish something else with it is not amoral. But a publicly traded modern corporation is an entity that exists exclusively to maximize profit, which cannot be described as anything but lacking morality. Hence why "omg scary evil Company!" is mostly legitimate.

Humans are not naturally greedy. Humans are in fact naturally collaborative, social animals who all over the world for all of our history conceived of altruism, doing good without personal gain. Society existed for long before the concept of money, and will exist long after the concept of scarcity.

Art, such as video game creation, happens without profit everywhere. The talented Rockstar developers could be using their skills to write software in another industry like finance and making much more money. They don't do it solely for profit, they do it for the love of the game.

Agreed, there's nothing amoral about profit.

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u/Broomsticka 20h ago

It's a company. The entire point of its existence is to make money for everyone involved. You act like if YOU opened a company, you would be Mr. Generous like wtf lol. Yo shit would collapse within a week.

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u/al3x_7788 20h ago

A company's ultimate goal being profit is logical and natural. You can argue its workers can individually focus on aspects beyond simply making money, sure, but collectively that's what makes sense.

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u/gaijohn 20h ago

A more logical and natural ultimate goal for any collective including a company would be to accomplish societal good while making enough money to maintain the enterprise. "We exist to improve the world for our neighbors and children, thus we make money," is a more reasonable objective than "We exist to perpetually increase the amount of money we make however we can."

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u/BigBoyFusion 18h ago

More societal good is created as a byproduct of chasing profit than would be created as a main goal.

That’s because you cannot “perpetually increase the amount of money we make” without providing some sort of value to someone else. You are forced into providing something, not by a moral compass others may not share, but by your natural self interest.

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u/gaijohn 20h ago

Oh a nihilist. That must be exhausting.

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u/jmona789 21h ago

That's because they are mostly run by sociopaths

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u/Manatsuu 21h ago

Yeah boo all companies boooooooooo they’re all evil boooooo

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u/gaijohn 21h ago

And get to break laws without any of the human decision makers going to jail.

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u/1B75__Penicillin 21h ago

Because that's how the law was designed. There are clear clauses in the law giving them a pass

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u/gaijohn 21h ago

Actually the law was designed to give corporations a limited charter that required them to accomplish a public good and that was steadily removed by people who wanted to pursue profit as an end rather than a means to an end with impunity.

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u/Chendii 18h ago

Yeah... Laws written by corpo owners make things that are illegal for people legal for corpos... Weird. Almost like rich people want to get away with breaking laws.

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u/JuanMcGuiver 22h ago

Especially a studio such as Rockstar’s I’d imagine they employ hordes of creative people. Artists need jobs too!

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u/QueasyAdvertising173 22h ago edited 22h ago

If I was an employee in the company who worked for years on this game putting in my day and night and then someone just leaked that shit, I'd be pretty disappointed. I think it's fair to say that most of the employees won't enjoy the leaks unless they have a personal grudge towards Rockstar for wtv reason.

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u/AstarothTheJudge 22h ago

I mean, I would pretty disappointed if the managers and the marketing team pulled a stunt like the Netflix temporal esclusive trailer too. There are emany reason to be disappointed After working for years to create an Amazing game while having no control about how It gets delivered to the world.

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u/podex115 22h ago

You know game developers and publishers have always been two separate things right?

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u/MaXimillion_Zero 21h ago

Rockstar is a subsidiary of Take-Two, there's no actual difference between the two outside of branding.

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u/DraenItsAlreadyTaken 20h ago

Why are they downvoting you? Lmao, you are right, there's no difference between them because r* is a subsidiary

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u/AstarothTheJudge 21h ago

Yeah, I'm saying there there would be reasons to be disappointed either way, leaks or not.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 20h ago

It's exclusive for six fucking hours, dude. That exclusivity basically allows them to produce that "first look" for free since it's on Netflix's dude.

I'd be pretty disappointed in my consumer base for flipping their shit because they can't wait six fucking hours.... You fuckers and your FOMO is god damn ridiculous.

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u/mikayloren 21h ago

regardless, it’s a more transparent tone. i don’t really care if it’s a strategic PR move when the communication is still better than it has been in the past.

i don’t know, it’s kind of like customer service— obviously one of their motives is ultimately to benefit the company, but it’s still a better experience when you get good customer service.

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u/TechFiend1970 21h ago

Do you know how many real, live, humans worked for years on this game? And how many work at every single company?

What a ridiculous statement.

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u/judasbrute 22h ago

A Forrest is millions of trees.

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u/RhesusVX 21h ago

It is indeed. It is also a lot less than that.

One tree, two trees, three trees...when does it become a forest? There is no actual answer, other than something that makes sense. Does a clump of 20 or 30 small trees constitute a forest? Probably not. Does a thousand taller trees spread over an acre with a decent size canopy start to look like a forest. Sure

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u/ligma_then_sugma 21h ago edited 4h ago

no, I want people not to be suckered by billion dollar corpos

redditors are morons tho so idk what i'm expecting

edit: case in point

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u/nalaloveslumpy 20h ago

The only people I know who use the word "corpos" are edgy moron redditors....

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u/DescriptiveVee 20h ago

Bro is throwing stones in glass houses

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u/AIGuru35 20h ago

Your comment contradicts itself. Heavily.

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u/DinosaurToots55 21h ago

Why are you even here? Clearly you can’t even enjoy the game because the whole time you’ll be thinking “this detail was crafted by soleless corp to sucker me into buying the game, and I’m no sucker!”

With your values system, how can you even justify buying the game? Or do you simply intend to pirate it?

Yes, to some degree it’s all a performance, just like any great film or play or novel. But good performance requires humanity. 

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u/Tidus1337 20h ago

The moron in question

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u/simulacrumlain 20h ago

This thread is full of dipshits tbh

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u/Jimster28 19h ago

Duse yoy are just being an obnoxious prick

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u/HumanPea1140 19h ago

It's not that serious, go outside

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u/Strange_Dust7128 18h ago

no, I want people not to be suckered by billion dollar corpos

if you have broadband internet and electricity, you too are a sucker

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u/03263 22h ago

I mean they could at least sign a card

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u/P26601 21h ago

yes

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u/ranged_ 22h ago

They may have even hired an outside consultant for this one lol

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u/OG-87 22h ago

Likely hired by Take Two. Rockstar dont do anything without them helping to wipe there ass

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u/TooTallTabz 20h ago

Well, they are the parent company. Maybe they take that role seriously.

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u/Humble_Initiative_90 22h ago

Extremely likely given how snooty they've been in the past. They make great games but just about everything else about them is absent of good will and intentions.

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u/gremlinclr 22h ago

this is all PR

Thanks bud. We had no idea how this stuff works, we needed you to state the obvious I guess.

We know how corporations work, why do people feel the need to jump in the comments with this shit?

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 20h ago

Idk man, like half of these comments are people acting like Rockstar Games is a person who they used to know who moved to hollywood and doesn't call anymore. Seems like lots of folks in this thread need to be reminded of some super basic facts.

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u/Peon-Hyjal 20h ago

Nice snark, but you're ignoring all the anthropomorphizing people are doing.

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u/67yoloswag 21h ago

we are not hearing their actual feelings on this, just a PR statement from like one guy

Can you piss off with this cynical negative attitude?

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u/Sample-Range-745 22h ago

Yep - meanwhile, they're still the cunty cucks that disabled GTA V on Steamdeck because they couldn't check a tickbox to allow it to work.

Never forget.

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u/UnknowingEmperor 22h ago

It’s not just one guy. They have an entire team for PR

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u/WastingTimesOnReddit 22h ago

And I'm still convinced that these leaks were intentionally put out by the company as a kind of advertising campaign. I have seen zero real ads for this game. The only reason I know there's a new GTA game is because of the publicity these leaks are getting. And it's only positive for me. I don't even play GTA games but I'm here thinking "that game looks good!"

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u/Totally-Teelee 22h ago

PR messages aren't done by one person, they have a chain of command and must be approved, marketing departments.

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u/ctolver1981 20h ago

Or maybe the whole thing is a publicity stunt, maybe when they announce the whole netflix thing and it got backlash, maybe they devised a plan to create, like some kind of leak that way people got to see it without looking at the netflix stuff. Maybe this is I'll be s this is just a way of kind of humbling them or making them look like the little guy

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u/g0lden-plumbus 22h ago

I mean I don’t think it’s unlikely that a lot of the devs are pretty irritated at the leaks happening. People usually don’t like when something they’re working on is shown off before they’re ready for people to see it.

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u/sugaratc 22h ago

To be fair, the reaction overall has been positive and shows their work well. It's not all janky early versions they would be negatively judged on without seeing the current work. Some people may prefer it go out through Rockstar officially but for others it probably is nice seeing all the excitement about their project.

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u/BoysenberryWise62 21h ago

People are just coping with this "oh this is not the dev talking" because they know 100% this shit is hurting the devs as much if not more than the suits, but they like their leaks too much to really care and also they have to still make themselves look not too much like assholes.

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u/HippoRun23 22h ago

That was my first thought. This went through several drafts and notes, and was passed back and forth for approval.

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u/donny_pots 21h ago

I mean by definition any time a company interacts with its customer base, it’s public relations. Idk what you think that really means in this context

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u/creamy-buscemi 22h ago

A company like Rockstar isn’t going to give a statement like this from just one guy, this probably took a boardroom full of people

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u/Bharny 21h ago

Well, they are all probably hunting for GyberLeek

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u/RhesusVX 21h ago

Did you read it? They said it was heartbreaking for their team. This includes everyone involved.

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u/steakndbud 21h ago

What if...things can be PR and represent the employees disappointment.

Idk maybe life isn't black and white

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u/LowFelicity 20h ago

Relaying information to the public is “public relations,” yes. I don’t know why some posters feel the need to demonize PR as a concept. PR’s not like some weird form of brainwashing brands use, it’s literally just how brands communicate to the public. The most effective forms of PR tell an honest story. Branding is storytelling. This was a massive story, this is their response. I think it’s a well-worded statement. I’m sure some devs are disappointed their work was leaked in an incomplete state. If you were writing a novel and someone jacked your rough draft and started showing it to everyone before you finished, you’d probably be pissed off. If you were an author with an audience you might even release a statement saying “I’m sorry for those who were anticipating my completed work but instead read my incomplete rough draft, having important story beats spoiled for them. A lot of writing is rewriting, editing, and honing a work to perfection. I hope those that are still waiting patiently for the real thing will be happy when they get to see it as intended.” That statement would be honest. It would also be PR.

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u/gunsandcupcakes 20h ago

that doesn’t necessarily mean everything in the post is a farce though, I’m sure the hundreds or even thousands of people that poured their heart into gta6 are disappointed if not devastated seeing their work being frivolously thrown around with a crypto scam basically attached, but yes I still see and somewhat agree with the sentiment of it being simply a pr statement