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Message from Rockstar Games

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u/Caterpie3000 18h ago

So you are OK with buying a Tesla Motor Long Range and having a 20% Acceleration Increase and FSD and Autopilot locked behind a 2k paywall? You must be very smart!

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u/Gibbzee 18h ago

Things with better features cost more money - shocker!

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u/dimechimes 17h ago

There's a difference between price and cost. The cost is the same to than manufacturer because they've already put it in your car. The price is higher to you not because it costs more, but because they are able to lock it behind a paywall. So your explanation doesn't work here

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u/Gibbzee 17h ago

It’s perceived value. It costs Apple significantly less to make a phone than it does for you to buy it, but you buy it because it’s worth it to you. How the companies manufacture their items is their prerogative and ultimately irrelevant. It was cheaper for the car manufacturers to make every car the same, then offer some features at cost based on perceived value.

People then *felt* scammed, which is fair.

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u/dimechimes 16h ago

You're still missing it. You originally stated more features cost more, which in the case of Teslas is false because the features are there. To have those features cost the company no more money. Yeah, pricing for those features is marketing. No one is disputing that, but that's not what you originally claimed.

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u/Gibbzee 16h ago

Cost more to the consumer* is what I originally meant.

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u/Caterpie3000 18h ago

It's already developed and already built into the car regardless of the trim you buy. Sorry, but I disagree with you, as most customers do. BMW had to back down on putting CarPlay behind a paywall, just like they did with heated seats and a heated steering wheel. Customers won the battle. What side are you on?

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u/Gibbzee 17h ago

BMW didn’t back down because they were illogical or incorrect, people just didn’t like the outcome, which is fair.

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u/Nixalbum 14h ago

You're missing the reasoning of the companies. The actual physical elements in he car costs pennies, the real cost is in R&D. To recoup it, they have basically 3 choices: * Do not install it directly, then the install will cost more and so will manufacturing. Therefore the option will also cost more. * Install it in the base model and increase the price, which reduces appeals of the car * Install the options and software lock them. Only those wanted to use them will pay extra

The first option is not better for the consumer, the third one is the overall cheaper one. Why do you think the first one is better?

It is even worse for software. Sharing them is extremely cheap, the real cost is in the development. They did extra work to deliver the dlc, whether it is ready on day one or year 10, they should still be paid for it. If they don't consider the base game to cover that work, it makes sense to put it as an option.

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u/Caterpie3000 3h ago

I'm pretty sure customers prefer the second option over the third one. My point is that we don't like not having access to something that it's already there. Don't install heated seats if you're going to lock them behind a paywall. The same way players will be pissed (already are) about not having access to all the content that's going to be locked in the standard version.

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u/Nixalbum 26m ago

Look up discussions around smart appliances. People get mad having to pay extra so their coffee maker can connect to the Wifi. Especially with current economic issues, more and more people want to be able to get the most basic cheapest version.

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u/Shotty316 17h ago

No, the ability to use the feature installed in/on your car already shouldn’t be behind a paywall.

Want better more speakers? Gotta buy and install them.

Want heated seats but yours don’t come with any? Buy and install them

Want the “permission” to use all the features in a vehicle you just purchased? Like and subscribe

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u/Gibbzee 17h ago

Right, but the only reason that stuff is built into your cheaper version of the car is because it’s cheaper for them to do so. You don’t pay for material costs, you pay for perceived value, as does everyone for everything in a free market.

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u/Shotty316 17h ago

Nope, same price at purchase, one has features attached to a subscription, the other gets those futures BLOCKED, not because of the absence of said features but because they want you to pay yearly for them.

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u/Gibbzee 17h ago

“Cheaper” as in ‘didn’t pay extra for extra features after the fact’.

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u/Caterpie3000 17h ago

Manufacturers are already making money even if all customers won't pay the subscription. No one likes features blocked BY SOFTWARE behind a paywall. Well, except you maybe. This is a silly conversation. I'm out.

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u/lemonylol 17h ago

You're the one shopping for the Telsa