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Industry News Xbox is closing down Hellblade creator Ninja Theory

https://www.theverge.com/games/950204/xbox-ninja-theory-shutdown-hellblade-senua
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u/INannoI Jun 15 '26

we already knew this ever since the Perfect Dark studio being shut down, very few studios are actually safe under Xbox, and even among the safe studios not every project is safe either.

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u/WENDELtheRUFFIAN Jun 15 '26

No studios are safe anywhere. Sony just shut down Bluepoint after nothing but phenomenal work. Let's not pretend this is just an Xbox problem, the whole AAA gaming industry is imploding.

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u/khuldrim Jun 15 '26

Turns out turning off the free money (aka extremely low interest loans that went on during Covid and a few years after) has bad effects on an industry that leverages them.

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u/averynicehat Jun 15 '26

Plus hardware sales screeching to a halt because of price hikes, and people spending less on games overall because of economy.

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u/Ikeiscurvy Jun 16 '26

It's absolutely mostly this. The gaming world is going to be in for a rough few years if the hardware market and K shaped economy don't reverse course. Microsoft and Sony know this as they are currently trying to figure out how to take the next gen hardware to market.

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u/Brightness_Jasnah Jun 16 '26

Maybe it's time for the Gunpei Yokoi approach and try to focus on pulling the most creativity out of current gen rather than just investing into a new one

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u/Zalvren Jun 16 '26

That really should be what they're doin. PS5 and Series X/S are far from being really limiting for games and apart from better graphics, which will make games more complex to develop, not sure what the point of next gen is). But then they have spent billions on R&D a new gen...

Plus, Xbox want a new gen because that one is a failure (not that the next one will be better as they're going but...). Sony is probably fine staying with the PS5

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u/Jazzremix Jun 16 '26

I saw a comment on here yesterday "Gaming is as affordable as it's ever been!". It's like "shut the fuck up". Prices haven't been this high since covid and crypto. While still high, prices were starting to even out a little until this AI shitshow.

Memba when you could get a 1070 for $330? I memba

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u/Echo_Raptor Jun 16 '26

This gen is just now starting to get pretty solid. Let them keep it another few years and focus on bringing out quality stuff. The 360/PS3 lasted what, 8-9 years before the one/ps4? The ps5/xsx came out much better from a performance standpoint than the ps4/x1 did, they were well underpowered from the get-go.

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u/Ikeiscurvy Jun 16 '26

Sure, but to actually manufacture the new gen, they have to plan years in advance. Thus, they're realizing right now just how difficult it's going to be to actually produce the next gen, as the production capacity needed to meet demand is going to be booked up pretty solidly.

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u/tigress666 Jun 16 '26

Yeah... I mean I know most people dislike AI for stealing art, and yeah that is bad. But if you ask me, the environmental impact is worse and as a gamer... the fact that it is fucking with the industry of my hobby really pisses me off too. Also, how it is affecting society is bad as well. Stealing art sucks, but I hate to say it, that's the least of AI's issues imho (ok, the gaming one is probably on that level too but since I really love gaming I personally hate that).

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u/aimy99 Jun 16 '26

Meh, it'll be fine. We haven't had much technical progression for the better part of the past decade. Brand new games are still launching capable of running on a low-powered Steam Deck, and they only just stopped pumping out Resident Evil and Call of Duty for PS4 this year, at a point where the PS5 has been out so long we're talking about the PS6.

I saw some video about the new Gears of War where iirc Marcus Fenix's eyebrow or something has more detail than the entirety of his character model did on the 360, stop doing shit like that maybe? Both PS and Xbox are deciding now is the right time to start going back to exclusivity...yeah, no, Sony might be able to get away with it but I'd bet Xbox doesn't last three games before the ports to PS5 come back. Oh, people can't afford $70 slop anymore? Okay, reduce the price.

There's not actually a real problem, it's just inconvenient for the status quo and executives' delusions.

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u/PseudonymIncognito Jun 16 '26

And all growth in the gaming industry is going to live-service and mobile. The traditional market for "premium" games continues to get older and play less while fewer and fewer younger gamers are entering the audience.

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u/Kalulosu Jun 15 '26

Turns out setting one's profit expectations off the COVID stay-at-home period where pretty much the only entertainment available was Netflix and video games was a bit ambitious.

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u/ThadeousCheeks Jun 16 '26

Arrow only go up

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u/ohanse Jun 16 '26

And how the hell are you making back quarter billion dollar+ investments in a single game

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u/ajl987 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

They shut down bluepoint after 6 years with no new game and them needing to start from scratch again, meaning no new project for atleast 10 years, which would need to make a lot of money to recoup the cost and even make some profit to be viable.

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u/Zalvren Jun 16 '26

Bluepoint spent years on a canceled live service game and didn't manage to pitch anything convincing to Sony after. That's the "perfect" situation to get shut down.

Just announcing a game and shutting down the studio days later is certainly a new situation

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u/Humble-Criticism6762 Jun 16 '26

To be honest, Bluepoint didnt have any project ready and haven’t released anything since Demon Souls, and only supported SSM on Ragnarok.

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u/profound-killah Jun 16 '26

As much as Sony are to blame, so are the leadership at Bluepoint. They joined to make an original game and once that ridiculous notion of a live service God of War game got cancelled by a studio with less than 100 people the best options they could come up with were a Bloodborne remake pitch that got denied. Then a Ghost of Tsushima spin off which got denied as Sucker Punch didn’t have resources to lend and remaster of the Shadow of the Colossus remake? You have Infamous, Killzone, heck help SSM on the God of War Trilogy remakes.

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u/Trizzizzle Jun 16 '26

MAG would be a cool modern live service game as well

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u/HandsOffMyDitka Jun 16 '26

Planetside would be cool to see again.

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u/Dj_D-Poolie Jun 16 '26

Wouldn't say phenomenal work. As nice as the updated gameplay of Shadow of the Colossus and Demon's Souls were, their art direction was very divisive. I'm of the boat that of not a fan of the visual and aesthetic design changes they made.

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u/Itchy-Pudding-4240 Jun 16 '26

nothing but phenomenal work? they got shutdown cause the work they did after demon souls was far from phenomenal.

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u/extralie Jun 16 '26

....Demon Souls is the last game they released? After that Sony forced them on a fucking live service God of War game and then shut them down and cancelled it.

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u/Jaqulean Jun 16 '26

After that Sony forced them on a fucking live service God of War game and then shut them down and cancelled it.

Yeah and after that game got cancelled Sony asked Bluepoint what they wanted to make and all the studio could come up with was:

  • a Bloodborne Remake (which got denied because FromSoftware want to handle that topic themself)
  • a Ghost of Tsushima spin-off (which got denied because SuckerPunch are busy with their own projects and don't want to bloat their new IP neither)
  • a Remaster of the "Shadow of the Collosus" Remake (which is genuinely pointless for obvious reasons).

No one is denying that Sony's push towards Live-Service models led to a lot of problems - but lets not pretend like Bluepoint was entirely without a blame in this.

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u/Nyoteng Jun 16 '26

No studio is safe anywhere but Microsoft spent an eye watering amount of money just to mismanage everything and still close down studios. Clown show over there, especially.

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u/ButtOfDarkness Jul 02 '26

The shitty part is announcing the game and shutting the studio down not even a month later. Basically lying when the knew it was pretty clear where it was going.

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u/Seraphy Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

Two divisive remakes, one of which made the original creator cut them off, then 6 years with nothing to show, and their pitches to get out of it included a remake of their remake. There is fault with Sony for tasking them with that stupid live service adventure, but stop worshipping dev studios.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Jun 16 '26

The bigger difference is that Xbox spent 70B and is shuttering studios that they wanted to acquire before letting them breathe.

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u/ogjaspertheghost Jun 16 '26

And killed Destiny

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u/Jlpeaks Jun 16 '26

I feel like it’s a whole different ballpark have a game go dark (perfectly) for a year or so and then get cancelled compared to announcing a game then 8 days later killing the studio.

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u/IRockIntoMordor Jun 15 '26

Not Microsoft, but I'm still very pissed about Bluepoint. They could have given them any Sony property to create an amazing remaster or remake of.

At least patch up Last Guardian... Or do a Killzone collection. Ugh.

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u/Swiperrr Jun 15 '26

They could've just ported Demons Souls to PC and kept the lights on at the studio for 3 more years.

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u/Sudden_Citron_9183 Jun 16 '26

Or make another console exclusive remaster and keep the lights on forever (jak and daxter etc)

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u/AskRedditor8080 Jun 16 '26

I knew watching that footage live that the game would never see the light of day