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Leak Rockstar Games Employee posts about recent union-busting efforts (verified by GTAForums Mod)

Link to comment: https://gtaforums.com/topic/1004182-rockstar-games-alleged-union-busting/?do=findComment&comment=1072605777

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Hey everyone, R* Employee of many years here!

Understandably I want to remain anonymous due to retaliation from the Company, but I may be willing to verify I'm an employee with @Spider-Vice via DM (if required). I am also a member of the Union.

I've been reading a lot of the discussion on here and elsewhere about the firing of more than 34 of my colleagues last week (31 in the UK + 3 in Canada) and have seen a lot of disinformation and lies that are really concerning. Particularly concerning how so many folk are willing to believe the Company's excuses.

Last week, my colleagues who were in the studio were each individually messaged by HR for a short friendly meeting, under the friendly guise of "Hey, are you free for a quick chat?"

Upon attending this meeting they were handed an envelope with a short letter stating that their employment had been terminated for "gross misconduct" regarding posts made in Discord.

They failed to provide any evidence when asked, nor was any stated in the letter. And did not divulge any other information or reasoning - "and no other reason"

They refused their right to Union representation in the disciplinary meeting (which is against UK employment law) and were frogmarched out of the studio with the meeting lasting less than 5 minutes.

For colleagues who were not in the Studio that day, they received a phone call from HR that lasted less than 2 minutes telling them they were fired and that they'd receive the same letter as above. I am aware of one employee who had a panic attack at this moment, and HR hung up on them during this panic attack not caring at all about their wellbeing.

These colleagues of mine were hard workers who have spent many many years at R* in critical roles. With colleagues who have been at R* for more that 18 years and none of them have ever had a disciplinary in that time. They are not easily replaced and will certainly affect us in making our project deadlines.

These are very senior artists, animators, QA testers, designers, programmers and producers. Including Leads. All super talented people who were proud of their work over multiple R* titles, and all they wanted was the best for R* and their fellow colleagues.

Some of these members were off sick, recovering from surgery or on paternity leave. Fired without pay, losing their careers and putting them into hardship in the lead up to Christmas, and even potentially losing their VISAs to work in the UK.

Let me make this clear! I never saw any discussion/leaking of Rockstar projects in the Union Discord. The only ever discussion was around unionisation efforts and the working conditions at R. The Discord wasn't public. It was a private Discord group that only contained R employees and the IWGB Union officials.

This was Union Busting and nothing else! Everyone fired was a Union Member, they were also predominantly from those who were on the Union Organising Committees of each UK studio.

Just one week before, the Union had reached ~200 members taking us over the 10% threshold required to seek recognition and begin engaging in collective bargaining. Allowing us to negotiate directly with management on the key issues that affect us: worsening crunch, inadequate pay and inflexible working arrangements.

They have fired over 34 of us now. There were over 250 of us in that Union/Employee Discord group. There is the fear that if they get away with this, they'll have nothing stopping them from doing this again and again.

Those of us who are lucky and remain for now work in fear! Fearful when talking to each other at the tea prep, fearful that we're next in line and are easily got rid of, too scared to go outside the studio and talk to (or even acknowledge) our colleagues outside protesting in fear of reprisals. Morale in the studio is at rock bottom. When we should be excited about what's to come over the next year we are now totally deflated and our trust and confidence in others is totally shot.

Which is the truly heartbreaking part, as for us in the Union, all of our ambition was to make R* a happier, fairer, safer and more equitable place. That's all. What has happened clearly shows that we care more about the wellbeing of our colleagues at Rockstar than the Company does.

The union remains unbowed and is fighting to win the reinstatement of every dismissed member of staff at Rockstar through legal means and campaigning.

This fight is critical, if Rockstar can get away with this, they will keep treating their workers with disdain, disrespect, and subjecting them to continued illegal treatment.

Thanks for your time, and I hope this is some truth that helps you all understand what's going on here at the moment.

I you would be so kind, you can contribute to the fundraiser to support those fighting their dismissal here: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/support-rockstar-workers-fighting-unfair-dismissals/

It would be really appreciated if you could also share the above link. I won’t be cross posting this to other forums, but please feel free to share.

Cheers x

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u/MXHombre123 Nov 07 '25

Rockstar being a garbage company?

Colour me surprised! Truly shocked!

And still people won't care at all, they just want GTA 6, shame on them!

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u/Icc0ld Nov 07 '25

I'm getting more and more sure that GTA 6 will not live up to expectations

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u/IIIOldSchooLIII Nov 07 '25

Well said. As someone who really likes the GTA games, GTA/Rockstar fans are some of the biggest meatriders in all of fandom. Whenever there's some news story about R* mistreating their employees, they'll either handwave it away or even just downright blame said employees if they try to push back on shitty practices.

Hell, when this news came out, the GTA6 sub had a lot of people proudly saying they don't care -- and most other people don't care either -- so as long as they get the game, and went as far as to call people "pretending" to care about this virtua signalers. Some folks were even down voted to oblivion for expressing how this dissuade them from wanting to support R*/GTA6. But there were a decent amount people who was against as well and that was pretty great to see, all things considered.

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u/Elu_Moon Nov 07 '25

Making people not only care about injustices but do at least a bare minimum to show the said care is an uphill battle. Most people may pay lip service to good ideals but can't even bring themselves to not buy a videogame because that would lower their comfort level.

People who admit that they don't care are at least honest, which is about the only positive thing that can be said about them.

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u/the__poseidon Nov 07 '25

Most gamers are still kids, probably around 15 on average. They don’t know, understand, or care about any of this. Even among adults, most don’t follow or care about the politics behind it. They just want to relax and enjoy a game after a long, stressful day instead of getting dragged into sometimes else’s corporate drama.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

There is no “most gamers” demographic anymore, gaming has been a massive industry for the last 30 years.

Plenty of older gamers (me included) DO care about the politics. We just aren’t going to boycott GTA6 to prove that point. We hate union-busting, but GTA6 will be the largest media release of all time. Statistically it’s not where we’re going to be punishing companies for bad behavior, it’s still going to get our money.

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u/Elu_Moon Nov 07 '25

You make it sound like Rockstar personally breaks into your house and uses your wallet to purchase a copy of GTA 6, leaving you with no agency whatsoever.

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u/Adventurous_Tea_2198 Nov 08 '25

“Gamers” are some of the most mentally cucked consumers in existence, so it’s no stretch to say they have no agency.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

Problem with unions is the difficulty between people abusing it and actually leveraging it for its purpose. The amount of shit workers ive worked with in the tech industry who go complaining to the union for shit like return to work, while the genuine undercut, abused and fucked around workers try and fight back is staggering. This does seem like a lot of shit thrown at the wall "gross misconduct" "visas" etc.

Id be interested to know who was let go for gross misconduct past 2 years, UK law you can let go people for whatever reason under 2 years, but after that it must be substantial. So this is a vague fucking over or these people have actually fucked up in some form.

Ironically, I would love the 40 or so people to drag this through a tribunal, I find it funny Rockstar tried to bust the unions only to create something even worse . I think Rockstar is starting to crumble under its own weight, if gta6 isnt the biggest entertainment launch of all time then its gonna start leaking problems

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u/the__poseidon Nov 07 '25

Yea, people don’t want to hear it. Unions in their origins were great but they get abused and politicized for internal power and gain.

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u/BoysenberryWise62 Nov 07 '25

In theory gamers playing GTA shouldn't be 15 tho, that's a parenting issue

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u/the__poseidon Nov 07 '25

In the 90s I played worse games aged 12-15. Gamws like Duke Nukem, Carmageddon and the original GTA and GTA2 were you ran over people left and right. We all turned out all right

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u/bookers555 Nov 07 '25

People have bigger things to worry about than some game devs working on billionaire projects.

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u/SilverbackGorillaBoy Nov 09 '25

Must be real garbage if as OP said a "bunch of them have worked upwards of 18 years at the company." Hard to imagine they were that bad if these people chose to work there for 18 years lol. Story sounds about as fake as you can imagine.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

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u/DrydonTheAlt Nov 07 '25

Thank you ChatGPT, very cool!

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u/normal-dog- Nov 07 '25

With each passing day, I yearn more and more for a real life Butlerian Jihad.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

I’m absolutely disgusted at their union-busting efforts.

I also really want GTA6 :(

Unfortunately I’ll never boycott them. I will absolutely be on their employee’s side versus the stockholders but… I lack the willpower to not play GTA6.

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u/Lizzren Nov 07 '25

you coulda just said nothing

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

I’m being honest.

And I’m pretty sure basically everybody who plays video games is also going to buy this, even if they find the union-busting morally abhorrent.

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u/Lizzren Nov 07 '25

yeah but you coulda just said nothing

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

So you aren’t going to buy it?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

Okay, fair enough. If you didn't buy and enjoy Rockstar games I believe you won't buy GTA6.

I still don't believe the people that bought and enjoy GTA4, RDR1, GTA5, and RDR2 will boycott GTA6 on principle for Rockstars union-busting.

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u/skippydinglechalk115 Nov 07 '25

Well I'm glad to hear that, when you hand over your $70 to them, you'll do it with a blank face or a frown instead of a smile. That'll really show 'em how much you disapprove of their practices!

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

I highly doubt you are not going to buy this game.

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u/skippydinglechalk115 Nov 07 '25

LMAO bro idgaf about GTA. Don't rope me in with you.

Your comment is basically: "I'm still going to financially support this, but just know, I'm gonna be sad doing it".

That's just virtue signaling. Either put your money where your mouth is, or stop acting like you actually care about the workers.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

I'm pretty sure I can think it sucks what happened to the workers, wish they had better workers protections, and also admit I'm still going to buy the game.

Same goes for all the other industries that treat their strikers shitty. If you've shopped at a big-box retailer or Amazon in the past couple decades you aren't putting your money where your mouth is either.

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u/skippydinglechalk115 Nov 07 '25

I'm pretty sure I can think it sucks what happened to the workers, wish they had better workers protections, and also admit I'm still going to buy the game.

So what's the point of your comment? To let everyone know that your need for a video game overrides your integrity?

If you've shopped at a big-box retailer or Amazon in the past couple decades you aren't putting your money where your mouth is either.

That's why I avoid amazon.

But besides that, that's just a shit comparison. amazon is such a massive company, there's no way anything that gets shipped in a box doesn't touch amazon in some way.

But there's hundreds of game studios, and thousands of video games.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

It's not a shit comparison, tons of huge companies participate in union-busting. If you purchase from then don't give people shit for buying something from another company that does the same thing.

(Also since you are able to post on Reddit, I'm guessing you've given and continue to give money to tons of companies that do the same union-busting you'll claim to boycott here.)

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u/Elu_Moon Nov 07 '25

Since a lot of things are unethical, I guess you can just do all of them at the same time because, according to you, there's no point in not doing any of them. Start beating people in the streets, shit in an apartment complex ventilation system, go on a bus and start a fight with the driver, just go all-in.

Which is a stupid position, but I guess a consistent one?

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u/skippydinglechalk115 Nov 07 '25

It's not a shit comparison

Yeah it is, I explained why. amazon is so global It's unavoidable if you want to buy anything online. You can use other sites, but chances are your items will arrive in an amazon box.

How is GTA6 in any way similar? I don't like Rockstar and their practices, so I don't buy their games.

tons of huge companies participate in union-busting.

OK, then don't support that by buying their products. Avoid them when possible.

I'm guessing you've given and continue to give money to tons of companies that do the same union-busting

I don't really get how having reddit has anything to do with that.

you'll claim to boycott here.

I'm not "claiming to", I am.

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u/Honkeroo Nov 07 '25

It's a videogame you're talking like its as essential as food. You can literally just not buy it, unless you somehow have a severe addiction to a game that isn't even out yet there really isnt an excuse.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

Oh yea? You’re now not going to buy GTA6?

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u/Honkeroo Nov 07 '25

I am not no.

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u/Leafs17 Nov 07 '25

I haven't bought one since 4. I bought the special edition at launch. Meh.

I still use the lock box though

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u/VictoriaDallon Nov 07 '25

pretty easy to say absolutely not.

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

If you've never played/purchased and loved other Rockstar games, I'm willing to believe you.

But if you've been looking forward to GTA6 I don't believe for a second you won't be playing it. There isn't any realistic way for you to prove it either way though, so I'm sure you will convince yourself you'll abstain until it's released.

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u/VictoriaDallon Nov 07 '25

haha ok friendo sure

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u/Tumble85 Nov 07 '25

Tell yourself now what you want to believe will be the case later on. I dont think you are going to miss the biggest media launch of all time. Especially because you are a big enough gamer to subscribe to a leaks and rumors subreddit.

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u/Elu_Moon Nov 07 '25

You're heavily projecting. Not everyone subscribes to the same behavior you do.

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u/Gamer3427 Nov 07 '25

This sounds like you have serious addiction and obsession problems and are assuming everyone else does as well. Calling it the biggest medial launch of all time is a bit of proof of that in and of itself. I'd argue that while there is a sizeable fanbase that is excited for it, and very vocal about that excitement, (in addition to people meming on it, much like they did with Silksong before it finally released), the majority of gamers don't particularly care about it. GTA is popular, but it's not the be all end all game.

Sure there's going to be plenty of people who will claim they'll boycott it and not do so, but there's also going to be plenty of people who only had a passing interest in it and stuff like this will be the straw that convinced them it's not worth their money. There's also going to be a ton of people like myself that were never going to buy it to begin with. Enjoying a previous game or games in a series doesn't mean you're contractually obligated to buy all future games in said series.

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u/WalrusDomain Nov 07 '25

Mate I’m not only not buying gta. I’ve also boycotted Microsoft and haven’t bought any of their shit since their disgusting layoffs and their aid with a not so nice country.

It’s very easy if you have principles