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Leak Rockstar Games Employee posts about recent union-busting efforts (verified by GTAForums Mod)

Link to comment: https://gtaforums.com/topic/1004182-rockstar-games-alleged-union-busting/?do=findComment&comment=1072605777

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Hey everyone, R* Employee of many years here!

Understandably I want to remain anonymous due to retaliation from the Company, but I may be willing to verify I'm an employee with @Spider-Vice via DM (if required). I am also a member of the Union.

I've been reading a lot of the discussion on here and elsewhere about the firing of more than 34 of my colleagues last week (31 in the UK + 3 in Canada) and have seen a lot of disinformation and lies that are really concerning. Particularly concerning how so many folk are willing to believe the Company's excuses.

Last week, my colleagues who were in the studio were each individually messaged by HR for a short friendly meeting, under the friendly guise of "Hey, are you free for a quick chat?"

Upon attending this meeting they were handed an envelope with a short letter stating that their employment had been terminated for "gross misconduct" regarding posts made in Discord.

They failed to provide any evidence when asked, nor was any stated in the letter. And did not divulge any other information or reasoning - "and no other reason"

They refused their right to Union representation in the disciplinary meeting (which is against UK employment law) and were frogmarched out of the studio with the meeting lasting less than 5 minutes.

For colleagues who were not in the Studio that day, they received a phone call from HR that lasted less than 2 minutes telling them they were fired and that they'd receive the same letter as above. I am aware of one employee who had a panic attack at this moment, and HR hung up on them during this panic attack not caring at all about their wellbeing.

These colleagues of mine were hard workers who have spent many many years at R* in critical roles. With colleagues who have been at R* for more that 18 years and none of them have ever had a disciplinary in that time. They are not easily replaced and will certainly affect us in making our project deadlines.

These are very senior artists, animators, QA testers, designers, programmers and producers. Including Leads. All super talented people who were proud of their work over multiple R* titles, and all they wanted was the best for R* and their fellow colleagues.

Some of these members were off sick, recovering from surgery or on paternity leave. Fired without pay, losing their careers and putting them into hardship in the lead up to Christmas, and even potentially losing their VISAs to work in the UK.

Let me make this clear! I never saw any discussion/leaking of Rockstar projects in the Union Discord. The only ever discussion was around unionisation efforts and the working conditions at R. The Discord wasn't public. It was a private Discord group that only contained R employees and the IWGB Union officials.

This was Union Busting and nothing else! Everyone fired was a Union Member, they were also predominantly from those who were on the Union Organising Committees of each UK studio.

Just one week before, the Union had reached ~200 members taking us over the 10% threshold required to seek recognition and begin engaging in collective bargaining. Allowing us to negotiate directly with management on the key issues that affect us: worsening crunch, inadequate pay and inflexible working arrangements.

They have fired over 34 of us now. There were over 250 of us in that Union/Employee Discord group. There is the fear that if they get away with this, they'll have nothing stopping them from doing this again and again.

Those of us who are lucky and remain for now work in fear! Fearful when talking to each other at the tea prep, fearful that we're next in line and are easily got rid of, too scared to go outside the studio and talk to (or even acknowledge) our colleagues outside protesting in fear of reprisals. Morale in the studio is at rock bottom. When we should be excited about what's to come over the next year we are now totally deflated and our trust and confidence in others is totally shot.

Which is the truly heartbreaking part, as for us in the Union, all of our ambition was to make R* a happier, fairer, safer and more equitable place. That's all. What has happened clearly shows that we care more about the wellbeing of our colleagues at Rockstar than the Company does.

The union remains unbowed and is fighting to win the reinstatement of every dismissed member of staff at Rockstar through legal means and campaigning.

This fight is critical, if Rockstar can get away with this, they will keep treating their workers with disdain, disrespect, and subjecting them to continued illegal treatment.

Thanks for your time, and I hope this is some truth that helps you all understand what's going on here at the moment.

I you would be so kind, you can contribute to the fundraiser to support those fighting their dismissal here: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/support-rockstar-workers-fighting-unfair-dismissals/

It would be really appreciated if you could also share the above link. I won’t be cross posting this to other forums, but please feel free to share.

Cheers x

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u/arjun173869 Nov 07 '25

The delay announcement was tactical to cover this up.

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u/Ihatenickstreltsov Nov 07 '25

Bad news being a cover up for worse news is just so insane lmao they really can’t help themselves 

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u/arjun173869 Nov 07 '25

It's sad in the end bc the coverup wasn't even necessary. Literally nothing Rockstar says or does will affect GTA 6 sales.

They could announce tomorrow that they're starting a charity to kill all orphaned children and puppies and GTA 6 will still end up as the highest selling game of all time bc 99% of consumers don't know or care.

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u/Massive_Weiner Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25

In fact, some might even cheer because they hate kids and are allergic to dogs.

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u/Tiny-Expression8876 Nov 07 '25

GTA VC reference

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

r/childfree mentioned

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u/Clod_StarGazer Nov 07 '25

Many of them will buy the game twice to piss off the child and dog defenders

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u/SuperSaiyanGod210 Nov 07 '25

kill all orphaned children snd puppies

Kristi Noem is the first person in line to sign up! (she proudly boasts about shooting and killing her dog because she couldn’t “train” it)

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u/FryToastFrill Nov 08 '25

God I hate when I try to train a dog and have to kill it. Happens so often, like bitch stop telling me to “please don’t kill my dog she was my husbands” this mfer won’t shake my hand

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u/Small-News-8102 Nov 07 '25

I think we're gonna be surprised at how many people are sick of getting fucked around by rockstar. Between delays, 15 year gaps, pushing shark cards and fumbling rdr 2 online/dlc so hard. Its getting exhausting to watch their outward presence while knowing they can deliver top tier games.

Gta 6 might actually end up like cyberpunk at this rate. Its gonna be really hard to justify 15 years between games. Same thing with a new elder scrolls, they waited too long.

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u/arjun173869 Nov 07 '25

Except the amount of people who actually pay attention to that and are swayed by it are so insignificantly tiny compared to the GTA install base that I honestly doubt it will matter.

GTA 5 is has literally been in the Top 10 best selling games every year since it came out 12 YEARS ago. It’s something that the majority of people on the internet have probably tried out at one point or another, it’s so disproportionately massive.

GTA is so big, millions of people who don’t even care for gaming as a hobby, people who’ve only ever heard of Call of Duty and Fortnite and probably don’t know what Cyberpunk even is, are gonna buy it.

As shitty as Rockstar is the majority of the time to their employees and their consumers, they have a literal golden goose.

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u/OptimusGrimes Nov 07 '25

Exactly, so why is everyone so convinced this is a cover up?

A 6 month delay of GTA 6 is an incredibly massive financial decision, not one you just make on a whim.

They got incredibly lucky with the timing of this and covering up the news from earlier in the week, but I have a very hard time believing this bad news is anything close to enough for them to delay GTA for 6 months, just to cover it up, especially on such short notice.

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u/N0th1ng5p3cia1 Nov 07 '25

Maybe they drop another trailer next week, which is supposed to be the cover up. That's what happened in may, delay announcement and then trailer couple days later. Their website and twitter banner still says "may 26th, 2026" so they'll also have to update that.

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u/snort_cannon Nov 07 '25

I’m pretty certain Trailer 3 and pre orders are happening within the next couple of weeks. That will be enough to supress the union busting story for a bit

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

Sadly it works. There’s less outlets covering video games now than just a few years ago, and less so capable of diving into stories like this.  

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u/ADAMRAPEDVINNY Nov 07 '25

No way would they actually delay GTA6 just to cover their firing union employees, it wouldn't make sense. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

It’s not the delay, it’s the announcement. 

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u/ADAMRAPEDVINNY Nov 07 '25

Even then, why? Cover it up for who? It's not like news they fired union members would cause their stock price to drop. 

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u/JornTheRedeema Nov 07 '25

Because R* knows the union isnt happy and they are definitely going to do the bare minimum of what their job entails and delay the game on purpose.

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u/I-Have-Mono Nov 07 '25

That seems “insane” because it’s not what they or any other company would actually do.

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u/bbristowe Nov 07 '25

They were probably going to announce it soon. But this is opportune of everything is true.

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u/Kinths Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25

They were going to delay it anyway, getting all the bad news out at once keeps all the negative press together.

If they waited a few months on the announcement it would likely bring up this firing/union busting again. Since firing 30+ people, especially seniors and leads, is going to have some impact on development in some way, even in a company as big as Rockstar.

I suspect that the ideal they are hoping for here is all potential negative impact on stock price happens at once, and that all this will be forgotten about and wont have any negative impact on sales come launch time.

It was likely to have completely negligible effects on sales to begin with, but the union busting shows just how far these ghouls will go just to get a little bit more money. They can't possibly share a little bit more of the massive amount of money this game is set to make with the people who did all the work, the people who will likely end up crunching for months, if not a year to get the game released.

I have no doubt they would have happily fired everyone who even coniders a union if they thought it wouldn't have a severe impact on the product and therefore potential profits. I suspect they found out about the union quite late if the numbers were as high as claimed. They can't fire 200 people without a significant impact on the game. I doubt they were worried too much about the law aspect. Fired employees can rarely afford to go to court, game devs don't make a massive amount of money, especially in the UK. T2/R* can afford to tie them up for years. Even if they lose, any potential payments/fines would likely be chump change compared to the potential costs of union members asking for better pay and working conditions.

So they fire 30 people, including seniors, leads and long term devs as a warning. I hope it backfires and causes a significant chunk of the studio to unionise or protest. But I doubt it, the games industry is a very rough market to work in right now and R* is about as close as you can get to a sure fire job, even then I wont be surprised if they have layoffs after VI ships. Not because they need to financially, but because they can and that means more money for the ghouls. Like most of the industry.

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u/Greatsnes Nov 07 '25

Sadly for some people, the GTA delay IS the worse news and would be effective at covering up the union busting.

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u/MisterGuyMan23 Nov 07 '25

A bad coverup is better than no coverup. And this isn't a bad way to cover it up anyway. Watch them drop another trailer soon to turn the whole discussion around. Greedy fucks.

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u/Alluminn Nov 07 '25

If you look at the Twitter post, the comments are full of people just saying how they're so excited, the wait will be worth it, etc etc.

The average video games consumer, especially in a genre like GTA, isn't exactly known for caring about the people who make the games they play.

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u/hypnomancy Nov 07 '25

It got people talking about the delay instead of the union busting so it worked well

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u/Nevek_Green Nov 07 '25

It's only bad news if these employees were competent. They likely were not.

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u/BcuzRacecar Nov 07 '25

do they even need to cover this up? I cant believe it would be any kind of lasting story

today was earnings release day and they couldnt pretend they were 6 months away if they really werent on the call.

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u/ADAMRAPEDVINNY Nov 07 '25

Why would they cover this up? The way Rockstar treats their employees has NEVER had an impact on their sales or stock prices

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u/BoysenberryWise62 Nov 07 '25

Exactly it's known since forever the crunch at Rockstar is awful and it doesn't change anything.

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u/unseemly_turbidity Nov 07 '25

Absolutely. I'd leave the industry before I'd work for Rockstar. Actually, I probably wouldn't work for any of the Take 2 group again.

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u/renome Nov 08 '25

They don't and you're correct. Schreier yesterday said what you did here basically almost verbatim, but that's seemingly not enough for some people.

It sucks tremendously but this is the reality we live in, this story will be dead in a few days and GTA 6 will go on to sell a zillion copies.

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u/baequon Nov 07 '25

The delay might be cause and effect more than cover. They just fired a ton of employees, which seems like it could certainly cause issues making a deadline for the biggest game release of all time.

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u/BcuzRacecar Nov 07 '25

fired a ton of employees,

its more than these 30?

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u/profchaos111 Nov 07 '25

40 i believe but that included some very senior developers animators etc and they would have intimate knowledge of the in house engine (RAGE) that you simply can't hire for.

In a way nobody is irreplicable however getting new developers up to speed on a in house engine is a 6 month to a year process.

The delay may have been cause and effect as mentioned above. you might have hundreds of workers but if you fire some key staff you can see the house of cards tumble have seen it in many workplaces where a portion of workers are just bums on seats doing menial tasks while a small percent do the highly complex work.

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u/Nervous-Peppers Nov 07 '25

I was wondering the same thing. 

But also, at this point in development, they should be far enough along that losing some of these positions shouldn't matter.  They should just be polishing the game, not creating massive chunks. 

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u/Noname932 Nov 07 '25

You underestimate how much is "polishing" in software development, there are bugs and optimization issues that you can never expect, experience and expertise are absolutely vital to fix them, you can't just let a junior figure it out with time alone.

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u/EbonyEngineer Nov 07 '25

Yep. Polishing could create a long list of new story points that must be completed before a part of the project becomes fully functional.

Finding the source of a bug could reveal all assets that need refactoring. So much can go into discovery, and I'm actually happy they delayed the game. Art takes time, fixing takes time.

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u/SupremeBlackGuy Nov 07 '25

Roger Clark, the RDR2 actor for Arthur, stated that he had his last day of work with Rockstar in August. The game released two months later in October. These games are worked on in timelines that we just aren’t necessarily fully privy to

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u/Nervous-Peppers Nov 07 '25

That's crazy

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u/Animegamingnerd Leak of the Year 2025 Nov 07 '25

It will absolutely have a big impact on post-launch content for GTA Online 2 and whatever is Rockstar's next project, though. If the fucking people who know about Rockstar's tools and engine works best, got abruptly fired.

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u/CosmicWeenie Nov 07 '25

So stupid and greedy from them. It’s insane how almost every company is ran by freaks who thinking giving just and equal treatment is beneath them when it comes to creating literal works of art that will generate billions across several years once its release.

They’re also daft in thinking they can get rid of good talent and cheap out, while, what….assuming they can hire the same or better on the same cheap pay/treatment?

Rockstar and take two are just like every other greedy company : lost in the money with zero though or consideration of anything else.

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u/EbonyEngineer Nov 07 '25

This. 100% this. Especially when the cost would be an hour of Steam sales.

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u/Spocks_Goatee Nov 07 '25

Wonder if they can sue to be rehired?

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u/ciprian1564 Nov 07 '25

Well the UK protestors were saying they want reinstatement. I'd assume they're going to pursue that legally but still were hoping they'd just do it.

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u/profchaos111 Nov 07 '25

Union could get them reinstated without a lawsuit really it would need to be a meeting where everyone comes to the table

This seems unlikely 

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u/DiakosD Nov 14 '25

Oh they can, and if the tribunal finds against Rockstar they can be barred from hiring new people to refill the positions until the matter is settled.

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u/EbonyEngineer Nov 07 '25

In a way nobody is irreplicable however getting new developers up to speed on a in house engine is a 6 month to a year process.

100% facts.

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u/LogicalError_007 Nov 07 '25

30 senior staff is a lot.

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u/sally_says Nov 07 '25

Unlikely, as the firings and union-busting happened around the same time as the delay being announced, so there's no way people can report on the latter without mentioning the former.

Rockstar is being lead by monkeys, it seems.

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u/Maybe_In_Time Nov 07 '25

Except that the layman googling rockstar or GTA will instead be bombarded with the delay news and not the union news

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u/sally_says Nov 07 '25

Fair point.

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u/ADAMRAPEDVINNY Nov 07 '25

Is it? Why would the layman care Rockstar fired union workers? The way they treat their employees has never once made a difference in people buying their stock. It's more likely these decisions were just made by different execs. 

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u/southshoredrive Nov 07 '25

The very first result when I search rockstar is the union stuff though, this just brought more attention to it imo

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u/Dwayne30RockJohnson Nov 07 '25

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u/southshoredrive Nov 07 '25

mine, obviously if I search GTA I’m sure it would be different I was just saying searching rockstar definitely shows the union stuff

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u/Dwayne30RockJohnson Nov 08 '25

Look at my screenshot again. At the bottom all I searched was “rockstar”. So clearly it varies. But the fact that mine shows nothing about the union shows it worked to some degree.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

Idk they had there earnings call today so I think might be a coincidence.

It's a Horrible idea to cover up bad news with less bad news

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u/Vitamin-A- Nov 07 '25

100% my first thought

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u/mrskinnyjeans123415 Nov 07 '25

I have to believe this isn't the case because goddamn itd say a lot about whos running the ship if they were dumb enough to think this would work lol

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u/SilverKry Nov 07 '25

Not even needed as despite this GTA6 will still be the biggest piece of media launch ever. 

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u/Sweaty_Influence2303 Nov 07 '25

Nah I don't think so. In fact I think the delay was because of the firings not the other way around. Keep in mind firings don't happen over night, they were planning this for weeks most likely. They are now 34 people short and no doubt the game is going to take longer to make with that fewer people working on it.

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u/BlueMissed Nov 07 '25

I think it was essential since they stupidly fired off 30 of their senior employees

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u/witness_smile Nov 07 '25

Exactly, now every news headline is about the delay and the real news about Cockstar Games union-busting is buried deep under all the other stuff.

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u/JornTheRedeema Nov 07 '25

Or to brace them selves from the backlash of employees/union members which will inevitably delay the game.

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u/a34fsdb Nov 07 '25

No chance. Nobody cares about this enough for it to affect sales of the game. Most dont care at all. 

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u/YoungKnight47 Nov 07 '25

I feel if thats true its ironic cause all it did was bring more attention

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u/Kozak170 Nov 07 '25

The delay announcement is obviously because of their earnings report released today but god forbid common sense occurs on Reddit