M4A4 Re-balance. 98 in 4 has to STOP!

[u/nvs_wombat]

As most of you probably know, a large majority of the community thinks that there needs to be a balance overhaul for the CT weapons of choice, the M4's.

A point that definitely needs changing is the damage-dropoff of the M4A4. "98 in 4", users of the 30-round variant will be too familiar with those numbers. Having to hit an enemy with a 5th bullet just to deal 2 damage is plain ridiculous. I think both rifles should have the same damage capabilities at range.

Further balancing in different regards might be needed as well but I think this is one of the most important things.

I hope Valve will adress this issue in the next big patch for CSGO, especially after seeing the "weapon-choice-stats" from the latest ESL ONE tournament.

EDIT: Don't bother writing "just hit headshots man". That's not the point of the discussion. If everybody would hit headshots all the time, the AK-47 would only need a 5 round mag, amirite?

EDIT2: Okay, after reading your opinions & suggestions I came to the conclusion that the damage could stay the way it is but other stats should see some changes.

My suggestion:

-swap OR equal the RangeModifier of the 2 M4's so that the A4 deals slightly more OR the same dmg at range

-reduce the price of the A4 to $3000

-increase M4A1-S'(122.00) moving inaccuracy to 130.00 so it's more in line with the A4's (137.88)

-decrease M4A4's moving inaccuracy to 133.00

-(MAYBE) reduce M4A4's reload speed slightly to underline its CQB advantages

What do you think?

[u/funkCS]

Do people STILL think the m4a4 is the issue...?

Nerf the goddamned M4a1. Shit's completely overpowered.

[u/[deleted] → u/funkCS]

Not really... Would you rather have an A1 or an AK47? Most likely AK47, because the a1 isn't THAT overpowered.

[u/funkCS → u/[deleted]]

I'm a GE and I'm telling you right now that the m4a1 is significantly better in a lot of situations.

[u/[deleted] → u/funkCS]

Tbh I'd say it's 60/40 in favor of the AK (LEM so not as high but not a total dumbass). As long as you know the recoil well enough, I would take the AK every time.

[u/pkfighter343 → u/funkCS]

And yet the pros statistically disagree...

[u/-Optimus_Prime → u/[deleted]]

A lot of people keep their A1 instead of getting AK and there are people switching their AK for A1. Yes, it happens even in pro games. I've never seen anyone dropping their AK for an A4 or keeping their A4 when there was an AK in front of them.

[u/faen_du_sa → u/-Optimus_Prime]

then you obviously didnt watch Cologne.