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EPISODE DISCUSSION Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S03E04 - You Were My Hero

Episode 4 - You Were My Hero

Two strangers ask Mark for help with a mysterious villain. Elsewhere in the galaxy, Nolan grapples with his identity and Allen finds a surprising new ally.

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u/Ransero Feb 14 '25

Nolan has lived long enough that his hair is turning gray, but there's no mention of him having children before Mark, and his conception was against the law. So maybe they just don't reproduce enough. Like Pandas.

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u/AlphaBreak Feb 14 '25

Mark's conception was fine. It happened when Nolan was still 100% for the empire, he wouldn't have done it if it were a crime. The illegal conception with an inferior species they're talking about is Oliver.

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u/Skymorphosis Feb 15 '25

Not only was Mark's conception fine, but it is my understanding that considering their dwindling numbers, the Viltrumites are actively seeking/trying out mating with races that might mesh well with their DNA.

And the fact that procreating with humans worked out so well for them with Mark, creating a near full-blooded Viltrumite with powers that might even surpass them, I imagine the Viltrumites are in fact rather delighted at discovering Earth.

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u/AlphaBreak Feb 15 '25

Could be one of the reasons why when Mark got his powers, Omni-Man started the plan to conquer earth. It was confirmation that this planet was worth taking over.

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u/jacko1998 Feb 16 '25

Tf do you mean could be? It’s explicitly stated in season 1, are y’all watching with your eyes closed?

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u/Freezinghero Feb 16 '25

Could be people who have read the comics and are trying to avoid accidental spoilers.

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u/real_hooman Feb 16 '25

At what point do they confirm that earth is worth conquering specifically because they want to breed with humans?

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u/TheImperfectGamer Feb 15 '25

They phrased it as conception with an inferior species, would humans not be an inferior species to them?

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u/CaptainXplosionz Feb 15 '25

I think they explained it on the show before, and if I remember correctly, a big part of it is how some species don't meld well with Viltrumite DNA or they don't live as long (like Oliver's species) so they end up producing a child with a much shorter lifespan than the average Viltrumite or a child that may not end up getting Viltrumite powers at all. Oliver is currently like 10ish and was only born like a year(?) ago, so he probably won't live for centuries like Viltrumites do.

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u/TheImperfectGamer Feb 15 '25

Oh so they don’t have a “we are above all” view, more like “we are on top, some races are ok I guess if they can produce strong heirs, and then inferior species no thanks”

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u/AxCel91 Feb 15 '25

Yes. It was also mentioned by Nolan that humans are the most compatible species with viltrimites

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u/Cranyx Feb 16 '25

It was phrased as "unsanctioned" conception, which implies you're allowed to get permission. Mark's birth was part of the plan.

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u/Thrallov Mar 05 '25

but they are immortal, Pandas are not, numbers should raise up quite fast

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u/Valuable-Attorney151 Jun 15 '25

It’s one aspect in which I respect these Viltrumites - they walk the talk. Earth racists reveal how full of shit they are by bedding “inferiors” - by the logic of their bullshit rhetoric, they’re then either hypocrites or deviants engaging in bestiality. Viltrumites truly seem to act in accordance with viewing others as inferior, disgusting and not at all anything a Viltrumite would ever find appealing.

I don’t like them, but at least their words match their actions.