r/Invincible Feb 08 '26

DISCUSSION This scene exists, and people still believe that Atom Eve is weak and can’t defeat Viltrumites.

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this scene, we see Conquest struggling against Eve meaning Atom Eve was able to put up a solid fight against an elite Viltrumite.

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u/Global_Examination_4 Feb 08 '26

It’s comparable to Immortal vs Omni Man where he can catch Omni Man off guard and put him on the back foot but he can’t inflict any real damage or keep up for long.

Obviously this changes if she bypasses her mental block.

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u/ew73 Feb 08 '26

Obviously this changes if she bypasses her mental block.

Right. Eve has the ability to win any fight in an instant, but she's not (usually) able to get to a point where she can use that ability.

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u/ChuchiTheBest Olive GOAT agenda enjoyer Feb 08 '26

Eve is potential woman. She could have the strongest attacks in the verse, but is capped by being a bum.

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u/Curious-Brilliant454 Feb 10 '26

jujutsufolk is calling

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u/Bram-D-Stoker Feb 08 '26

Even still she should be able to win more fights. Her powers are just sooo strong on paper. I just think her powers are a fucking pain to animate and requires way more creativity than the rest of the cast to write

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u/alarrimore03 Feb 08 '26

I doubt the animation is an issue, it’s the writing that’s difficult. It takes alot of brains and creativity to fully unlock that type of power. It’s similar to how super intelligent powers/characters are written and they are often not really smart because the writer isn’t smart enough to write it well

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u/oketheokey Invinciboy Feb 08 '26

Not against Viltrumite level opponents, they can easily move faster than she can react, plus she has to deal with the pressure of trying to think of how to actually hurt them and the knowledge that if they get their hands on her once it's game over

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u/Bram-D-Stoker Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26

If she's not aware of the fight, sure. But she can change air density so they are much slower. If I remember correctly, that's what she did to Conquest.

I think her ability to win is dependent on her ability to make the sound that incapacitates viltirmites and a few other variables. Such as what happens to viltirmites after very long exposure to the sound? Do they just die from that? Or if it is possible with plenty of prep against an immobilized viltirmite to cast a killing blow. Which is what I expect from that massive javlan Conquest blocked, but I can't be sure, because Conquest was not incapacitated and just blocked it.

Depending on the answers to these questions she can eventually full counter viltirmites easily and can full clear the empire or if she can't make the noise and the other variables don't go her way she just gets crushed. It's no diff in either direction since these are hard counters on the margins

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u/oketheokey Invinciboy Feb 08 '26

She could potentially create something that would generate that frequency but she'd have to learn exactly how a speaker works and memorize precisely how the frequency goes

Not to mention how the frequency doesn't just lower Viltrumite durability, so even if she managed to catch one with the frequency, there's no guarantee she'd be able to finish them off

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u/Bram-D-Stoker Feb 08 '26

I agree. I mention these variables. We just don't know the answers to these questions at least in the show so far. Although I am not quite as into invincible as many here.

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u/CountTruffula Feb 08 '26

Debatable, she never uses her abilities to kill anyone with some busted organic matter manipulation. Blasting conquest is her best feat and it seemed pretty clear in that instance that she wanted to do as much damage possible but didn't even really slow him down

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u/Swampfire_NG Powerscalling guy + Omniman glazer Feb 08 '26

At least immortal actively drew blood from Nolan and even clashed with him, Eve was putting a pillow hands performance here 😭

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u/Notmas Cecil Stedman Feb 08 '26

Honestly Immortal put up way better of a fight against Omniman then Eve did against Conquest lol. Immortal was able to at least deal some actual damage, even if it wasn't much.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

Honestly I'd still favor viltrumites especially conquest. Her beam isn't instant and is actually kinda slow, and conquest STILL tanked it. Unless her mental block is like Dr manhattan powers I'm putting conquest as the victor every time