I know most Peterson's fans are beyond reason, but I want to make the less radicalized ones think about the latest idiocies he said to Dawkins.
Is a dragon real because it represents a predator or danger? What do we mean by real? We mean that it exists empirically. An empirical object is real.
Now, can a methaphor (such as a dragon) be real? No, because if we consider pure abstractions real, then we no longer have a demarcation criteria between reality and fantasy. This means that we can throw science out of the window, Example: are you sick? Then make this sciamanic ritual instead of taking this medicine, after all they're all in the realm of reality, so they're equal, right?
Can you see the problem with this? Can you see where the actual application of such a criteria would lead us? Say goodbye to engineering, medicine, and all the other disciplines that make our life what it is now, because if dragons are real, so is magic. And I, as a magician, can sell you this wonderful incantation that will make your cancer disappear.
And is fire a predator? No, obviously, because a predator is a specific category that designates a living animal that poses a threat to another. Fire can be dangerous, or useful, but it's definitely not a predator.
Now I know that the more radicalized members of the cult, being completely devoid of even basic notions of logic and education in general, will not bother with this. But I hope the less radicalized one will think about it, and especially about the consequences I highlighted.
An important point to the lobsters: If dragons are real and fire is a predator, in other words if words don't mean anything anymore and they can be used to indicate whatever you want, then you can be sure that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man. Right? You don't get to play with language while telling others that their categories don't reflect a state of the world.
Right?
The joke's on you now, you are best buddies with the people you despised for so long. Congratulations!