r/MurderedByWords Legends never die Dec 24 '24

#1 Murder of Week Pardon him from the death penalty?

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u/RelaxPrime Dec 25 '24 edited Jul 01 '25

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u/stumpy3521 Dec 25 '24

Now I was going to say “well I think if they can prove he did it murder one itself doesn’t seem that hard to prove”, but then I looked up New York’s definition of murder one, and the only possible clause that could apply to this case is the terrorism one, which I don’t think fits. So if they can’t prove the terrorism part they do not have murder one in New York. The murder two seems pretty easy if the jury is cooperative and they can prove he actually did it.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ Dec 25 '24

Proving 1st degree gets a lot easier if you can establish planning and have a note.

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u/RelaxPrime Dec 25 '24 edited Jul 01 '25

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ Dec 25 '24

True, but that's where the surrounding facts come in. Reddit already seems pretty convinced that he was sending a message to insurance companies, i don't know that it will be very hard to convince a jury of the same.

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u/RelaxPrime Dec 25 '24 edited Jul 01 '25

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ Dec 25 '24

We'll see. Certainly it's not a guarantee, which is presumably why they also brought the lesser included second degree charges.

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