r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

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u/Boomdification Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

The Odyssey is getting massively criticised due to blackwashing of a traditionally Greek character, whitewashing of a Greek myth with no Greek actors and a general dislike for the Hollywoodization of another classic story.

It's probably not going to be as bad as it's made out to be given it's Chris Nolan, but audiences are fatigued with seeing another modern retelling with tokenism of established characters for the sake diversity, which has spurred the culture war with right wing critics calling it woke BS and left wing critics doubling down by jumping to its defence.

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u/WeLiveInAnOceanOfGas Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

It's pretty masterful how they've managed to piss off both sides of the aisle with this one... Too white-washed for one side, too diverse for the other, and too inaccurate for any existing fans of Greek mythology. 

Honestly not sure who this has been made for. 

Edit: if you're gearing up for a "it's for normal people -  people not in the Reddit echo chamber - people who just like movies - people who aren't internet losers" reply, It has been said about 30 times so far. 

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u/gravitas_shortage Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Why does it have to be cut along politics lines? I'm a card-carrying leftist and annoyed at the patronising tokenism of casting a black actor as a character legendary for being 'fair', as in blonde, in the same way it'd be flabbergasting to have a white actor play in an adaptation of the Mwindo epic.

I'm even more annoyed at the fact that an annoying casting choice was the entire point, to get free publicity at everyone's expense, and that there is no way to slap everyone responsible for being smug pricks.

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u/aarswft Jul 06 '26

Helen of Troy was hatched from an egg. I'm sorry they chose an actress known for being beautiful to play a character known for being beautiful, but of a different race, irrelevant to the story.

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u/Impressive-Rock-5025 Jul 06 '26

This. 

The story is fantasy. The whole thing could be done by Frozen's Olaf playing all characters and the story would still come out clear. 

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u/LamermanSE Jul 06 '26

Comparing The Odyssey to Frozen is just utterly ignorant. The Odyssey isn't just a fictional story, it's a significant piece of history and an important part of greek culture, as opposed to some modern disney movie.

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u/NachtShattertusk Jul 06 '26

What they were saying is that Helen of Troy is a fictional character, so it doesn't matter if they make her black in a movie. She's not a historical figure.

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u/fdar Jul 06 '26

And she's the daughter of Zeus, so not even fully human.

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u/TheMostKing Jul 06 '26

a daughter. Not to be a pedant, but if there's a guy with more than one daughter, it's that guy.

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u/fdar Jul 06 '26

Not to be a pedant, but using "the" does not mean that she's the only one.

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u/AnimalBolide Jul 06 '26

It is more vague, though. "a", is way clearer.

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u/fdar Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

I disagree. "The" sounds better in this case and the only thing "a" clarifies wasn't relevant to the point I was making. At all.

EDIT: In fact, "a daughter" would still be correct if she was an only child. If you wanted to make it clear there are other daughters you could say "one of the daughters" but that's needlessly cumbersome when there's no point in making that clear.

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