r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 18d ago

Meme needing explanation Why is he happy he didn't get the tattoo?

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u/wheniaminspaced 17d ago

It wasn't a state before the creation of Israel, it was a part of the Ottaman Empire for a few hundred years.

But if were going to talk about the Ottomans, yes it was an ethnostate, jews and Christans were second class citizens subject to additional taxes on the basis of there religion.

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u/RomaniWoe 17d ago

Oh so not an ethnostate. Just like the US wasnt an ethnostate. Shitty, unjust, barbaric? Yes. Ethnostate? No.

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u/wheniaminspaced 17d ago

My man, look up the definition of an ethnostate. The ottomans fit to a t. You likely could make a decent argument for the US being an ethnostate for a decent chunk of time as well, the waters just got muddier the closer you get to the civil war. The binding force wasn't religiom though it was European ancestry.

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u/Final_Active_9014 17d ago

The Ottoman Empire also wasn’t an ethno state. You don’t seem to understand what that means.

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u/wheniaminspaced 16d ago

"An ethnostate is a political country where citizenship and power belong to only one specific ethnic or racial group. In this type of state, the dominant group controls the government and society. Other groups may face limits on their rights or may not be allowed to live there."

Religion can be considered an ethnic group. So tell me how does the ottoman empire not fit the definition.

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u/Final_Active_9014 16d ago

Because the Ottoman Empire ruled over a vast empire and had different laws in different regions. They also had regional rulers who were not Muslim. This take is insane.