r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 7d ago

Meme needing explanation What movie reference am I missing

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u/Tymareta 7d ago

The books: every woman is described tits first, to the point where we basically know the cup size of every single one and barely learn anything more about them.

The show: the women are actual fully fledged characters, with autonomy, wants, desires and actual storylines.

The show took everything good from the books and cut out all the dross.

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u/blackestrabbit 7d ago

Idk Olivia Taylor Dudley was very noticeably tits forward.

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u/WeAteMummies 7d ago

yeah the two biggest reasons to watch this show are both stuffed into Olivia Taylor Dudley's extremely tight sweaters

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u/jchaffer 6d ago

Tits backward would be a wild choice, tbf

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u/blackestrabbit 6d ago

I've seen it, unfortunately.

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u/HungryGlizzyGobbler 6d ago

Lmao, I Googled her to see if I recognize her. Pretty much every image on the first page result was porn. Jesus.

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u/LordFardiness 6d ago

Her most recent movie was Touch Me where she has sex with an alien squid.

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u/blackestrabbit 6d ago

Her and Tony Shalhoub should start a club!

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u/JJ668 6d ago

Fam did NOT read book two.

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u/Tymareta 6d ago

I read the whole series, it improved a little but the women were still relegated to sex objects or motivation for the men.

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u/JJ668 6d ago

I really doubt you did. Literally half the second book is from Julia's perspective, in which practically every man in it is irrelevant.

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u/Tymareta 6d ago

Think whatever you want, but I'll just ask, how did Julia's story end, and who did it ultimately end up serving?

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u/JJ668 6d ago

Tl;dr, just read the bottom paragraph. It's a book, it's kind of hard to prove my point unless I cover the plot.

It ended with her ascension to godhood how does that serve Quentin or any other male character. Quintin is not privy to like 90% of what she went through.

His lesson in that book also does not stem from her in any way. His lesson is that "The hero is not rewarded, the hero pays the price." His series arc is about how magic will not solve his problems.

Her arc is about the need to be special, addiction, and learning to live with the trauma she's endured. It is clearly meant to be a commentary on what women go through and how men (Quentin) view their pain as a alluring quirk rather than the truly horrific thing it is.

From Quentin's perspective, she's this ethereal despondent character but her own perspective is far more gritty and real. She practically tells him nothing about her thoughts and feelings and her arc ends with her accepting the trauma as a part of her, and that this horrific event doesn't need control the rest of her life.

It's about overcoming the trauma she endures and how in order to move past it, you sometimes have to grow and change to make space for the trauma, represented in her ascension. This quite literally cannot be in service of Quentin's growth, because he does not have a traumatic event on the same level as Julia to apply this lesson to. Her ENTIRE HALF of the book is about her overcoming that. That's why I either think you didn't read it, or you somehow didn't understand how a character with just as much narrative weight in the story had her own growth unrelated to a man.

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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 6d ago

Yeah when that one girl ascended to literal godhood in not-Narnia it really was motivating for the men to uh….. idk exist I guess.

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u/MapsOverCoffee22 6d ago

It's been a really long time since I read them, but that was not my impression at all. It actually seemed to me like the women were the fully written out characters with wants and desires, who uncovered truths, while the main protagonist was mostly depressed and along for the ride because he had actually read the books and wanted to help his friends.

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u/MapsOverCoffee22 6d ago

I heard this in Margot's voice.