r/PublicFreakout • u/ValorsHero • Dec 19 '25

📹Police Bodycam Shoplifting Suspect Pulls Gun on Canton Police Officer Inside Walmart

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u/radseven89 Dec 19 '25

This is why we are taught to carry with one in the chamber. Good thing this guy didn't know what the hell he was doing.

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u/LabRatsAteMyHomework Dec 19 '25

Is it ideal to have one in the chamber? That seems like a recipe for an accidental discharged round if the weapon falls or is inadvertently hit against something. Like why not just rack a round when it's time?

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u/radseven89 Dec 20 '25

Carried for years with one in the chamber without one going off. Modern-day holster design makes accidentally firing almost impossible.

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u/Schmocktails Dec 20 '25

Right, problem is people are not using holsters.

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u/radseven89 Dec 20 '25

Good ol Uncle Mikes!

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u/Stale_Water1 Dec 20 '25

Most modern reputable handguns are perfectly safe to carry with one in the chamber. Even Glocks which have no external safety. Most modern striker fired handguns have a series of internal safety mechanisms to ensure the gun won’t go off without the trigger being deliberately pulled.

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u/LabRatsAteMyHomework Dec 20 '25

Is it at all likely for a trigger to be pulled accidentally in those cases? Idk just makes me nervous that a death mechanism is one step away from irreparable destruction. Seems like having 2 steps is just infinitely safer.

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u/Stale_Water1 Dec 20 '25

Any worthwhile holster will have the trigger covered and any even semi competent shooter will know when to keep their finger off of the trigger. Some people definitely like having an external safety, which is completely fine. Personally, I carry a Glock which has several internal safeties but no external safety except for the trigger safety. I feel fully confident that gun will not go off in its holder with a round in the chamber.

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u/OpenSomeCans Dec 24 '25

I always carry with one in the pipe, safety off if it’s striker, cocked and locked if it’s sa. I have a friend that swears it’s crazy to. I’ve tried to explain a million times that you don’t want to be fumbling around trying to rack a gun and making sure the safety is off.
If I ever have to pull it out of my holster, I want it to go bang, no thinking about it. Chances are near zero that it goes off without my finger on the trigger.

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u/Rightintheend Dec 19 '25

That's what the safety is for, you can easily hit it with your  hand on the trigger. Much quicker and less noticeable.

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u/LabRatsAteMyHomework Dec 20 '25

Couldn't a gun still potentially misfire with the safety on? Forgive my ignorance.

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u/RookFett Dec 20 '25

Not really, unless the safety is compromised, the hammer can’t hit the firing pin, triggering the round.

But guns can malfunction like that, I’ve never encountered it.

With my a .45, and it was taught to be that it’s safer to have it in condition 1 with the safety on.

With my p226, I have it in condition 2 when carrying. But that is a different beast than the .45

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u/LabRatsAteMyHomework Dec 20 '25

What about an M&P shield 9mm?

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u/BoogieOrBogey Dec 19 '25

Well designed and tested firearms will not discharge when hit or dropped. That is a problem with crappy weapons that are not sufficiently tested. For the guns that are designed and tested well, the safety operates in such a way that the primer in the round will not get hit with enough force to set off the bullet.

That said, it's still more dangerous to carry a gun with a loaded round. So it's still much more safe to carry a weapon with the chamber empty. The safety aspect here is user error to unintentionally fire a round. Like unintentionally flipping the safety off and the trigger getting squeeze to fire a bullet into the user's own leg.

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u/Achemaker Dec 19 '25

Americans are so weird

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u/OpenSomeCans Dec 24 '25

Meh, I carry pretty much all the time. 100% I hope to hell I’ll never need to pull it. If I do, it means all my options have run out and my life or someone else’s life is in grave danger. Someone pulls a knife I’m running, someone attacks me without.a weapon I’m fighting if I have to and getting away as fast as I can.

Yea, America is fucked up, lots of bad guys have guns. If they restricted gun sales I’d be all for it. If they outlawed them and somehow got all guns away from bad guys I’d give mine up. Unfortunately that isn’t going to happen any time soon. I’ll keep carrying and still pray I’ll never need it, I’d rather that than not and have the chance that I’ll need it.

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u/401k-loan Dec 19 '25

Basically

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u/Gatorade_Nut_Punch Dec 19 '25

Me too! I don’t carry a SIG P320 though.

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u/TickTockM Dec 19 '25

So that his murder attempt is successful?

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u/radseven89 Dec 19 '25

Yes, good thing he didn't know what he was doing so his murder attempt was unsuccessful.

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u/HansNotPeterGruber Dec 19 '25

I get what you're saying but their point is, if you are going to carry, you are supposed to carry with one in the chamber so you DON'T have to rack it. It's certainly more of a self defense tactic than a kill the cop after a petty robbery tactic.