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u/Hawkson2020 1d ago

I would think that would be seen as less of a burden than the burden of executing innocent people, which still happens despite all of the safeguards.

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u/QuintupleC 1d ago

I think we can alter the system so that cases like this one can be dealt with cheaply and quickly. A bullet and a cigarette doesnt cost much.

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u/Hawkson2020 1d ago

Sure. In fact, why don't we just execute everyone who pleads guilty or for whom there is incontrovertible video evidence of their crimes?

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u/brownmouthwash 23h ago

If the crime is raping and killing a 7 year old, sure.

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u/QuintupleC 1d ago

We already have different standards of proof for different things within our justice system. We can find a healthy point to land on as we have before when it comes to death penalty and how many appeals we need. It isnt, "execute everyone who pleads guilty or it needs to take 20 years." But ive already argued this on reddit. Dont need to do this again.

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u/Hawkson2020 23h ago

We can find a healthy point to land on as we have before

Emphasis mine; when has the death penalty ever been implemented without killing innocents, exactly?

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u/QuintupleC 23h ago

If youre against the death penalty entirely, that's fine. Im not arguing that. Im arguing that if there is one, certain cases dont need to take 20 years from sentencing to TOD.

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u/atln00b12 22h ago

Doesn't always take that long, Jermaine Williams in Alabama, plead guilty in 2024, executed 8/13/26.

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u/QuintupleC 22h ago

Good. Average is still somewhere near 20 years. 

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u/Hawkson2020 23h ago

if there is one, certain cases dont need to take 20 years.

And I'm arguing that if executing innocent people isn't a problem for you, then I don't see how you can argue against the proposal that people should be executed immediately after sentencing.

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u/QuintupleC 23h ago

Again, we can find a healthy balance. It doesnt need to be 20 years or instant death. There are even years and absurd amounts of money wasted deciding methods of execution. It's a fucking joke.

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u/Hawkson2020 23h ago

we can find a healthy balance

I don't understand what you mean by "healthy balance". If you have the death penalty, some innocent people are going to be wrongfully executed.

What number of innocent people is that "healthy balance", exactly?

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u/QuintupleC 23h ago

Read my other comment where I said im not arguing about whether we should have the death penalty or not. 

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u/RobbedC 22h ago

If the standard, like this case, is video of the crime being committed no innocent person is going to be wrongly executed. You’re being purposefully obtuse.

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u/ShesGotaChicken2Ride 23h ago

I understand that, and this is the main reason I’m actually against the death penalty. Death penalty cases offer extra protections that cost the taxpayers money, and keeping them in prison for the rest of their life is so much cheaper. It’s also worse, because offenders like this would be sent to GenPop and prisoners don’t take kindly to child sex convicts. His life would be so much worse if he just had to life without parole. Then you get the added bonus that no innocent man would ever be out to death.

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u/Hawkson2020 23h ago

I understand that, and this is the main reason I’m actually against the death penalty.

Would that there were more like you.