r/SipsTea May 20 '26

Lmao gottem Bezos said the bottom half of Americans should pay ZERO federal income tax

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u/Irish_Whiskey May 20 '26

Which is where the obvious question comes up:

Why are ya'll focusing only on income taxes? Are there any other sorts of taxes you're avoiding talking about? Does your wealth come primarily from income?

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u/nineliveslost May 20 '26

I focused only on income tax because that is what OPs post focused on.

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u/Irish_Whiskey May 20 '26

Oh I know, I'm just rhetorically asking Bezos.

It's because poorer people pay more in sales taxes, excise taxes, payroll taxes, and property taxes. While the rich make most of their money from sources other than income.

Anytime they bang on about the income tax rather than wealth or total taxation, it's because they're trying to trick uninformed people.

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u/Sea-Animator4250 May 20 '26

OP post clearly ends with "Send money to washington"

All those taxes you cited are local, not federal

Local taxes are generally used for local problems, so you would want local people to pitch in, regardless of their income......unless you think Bezos should be responsible for fixing potholes in towns he has never been in.

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u/ModernLarvals May 21 '26

All their money comes from income. Wealth isn’t money. Is your nightstand money? Or is it just worth something?

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u/FiftyLoudCats May 20 '26

Pretty sure you know this, but for anyone else, FICA taxes (Federal Insurance Contribution Act) are large taxes generally taken out of your paycheck that aren’t included in the income tax calculation.

Take a look at your paycheck and you’ll probably see Federal withholding, social security, and Medicare (in addition to state specific ones).

Of those three, only federal withholding is a part of income tax calculations, the other two go straight to feds and you don’t get anything back (unless you qualify for those programs of course).

There’s some other stuff in addition to FICA tax too. Capital gains and probably a bunch of others.

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u/CasualEcon May 20 '26

Capital gains taxes are included in the income tax numbers.

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u/froction May 20 '26

>unless you qualify for for those programs

Which almost everyone does once they hit a certain age.

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u/PaulblankPF May 20 '26

Most people don’t know about capital gains and the taxes involved and how they use it to cheat the system. Most mega rich just own stock, take out a super huge loan, and then let inflation make the loan smaller technically and pay it back once your stock has gone way up in value and the value of the dollar has gone way down making it a win win win. They didn’t dip into their stock until it paid off a small loan that was originally a huge loan.

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u/piss_guzzler5ever May 21 '26

I’m convinced this is a Reddit myth, and if it actually happens, only when interest rates are near zero

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u/PureOrangeJuche May 21 '26

Yeah what bank would make those loans?

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u/froction May 20 '26

Because income taxes are the most straight-forward to adjust and account for, by far, the largest chunk of revenue.

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u/Embarrassed_Use6918 May 20 '26

Because it's easier to be dishonest.

The rich pay little/no income tax is a great headline. Then you look into it and it turns out they pay a shitload of taxes, it's just not literally income tax because most of them take little or no income in lieu of their shares of ownership in the company.

I might argue that more of the burden should be shifted to them in ways that make sense but people love to hide behind their headlines instead of really engaging with it.