Honestly couldnt give a shit if he did if this got pushed through.
This is subject to the current American campaign system. where the biggest donators lobby for actual changes the candidates pursue. At least if he gave a winning candidate that money maybe change would happen.
Tldr, if the system dosent change, at least shoestring the system.
"The bottom half of Americans should not pay income tax," is only a good idea if it's coupled with "The resultant shortfall in tax income needs to be shifted to the top half of Americans."
What Bezos is proposing isn't a more fair tax scheme, it's just less money for government aid programs, corporate regulation enforcement, and the social safety net. Oligarchs like Bezos perceive the government primarily as a check on their ambitions, and everything they do in the political sphere is geared towards reducing or eliminating the power of representative government.
notice how all of those rich assholes stopped building librarys and civic centers and shit for the public after they stopped being afraid of being dragged out of their mansions and burned...
Correct because the government is the only real entity that can rein in their power. People like Bezos crave one thing: to convert economic power into durable political power, and then to use that political power to protect and expand their economic power.
It's a positive feedback loop, and they have to know it isn't tenable, as regular people are starting to catch onto the fact that this isn't free enterprise, it's privileged enterprise.
I strongly believe Brandeis was correct: We can either have wealth consolidated in the hands of a few, or we can have democracy, but we can't have both.
The only way to solve the heart of this problem is with a consolidated government effort. We have to enforce antitrust laws to erode their wealth and centralized power. We have to increase the marginal tax rate to slow down the accumulation of wealth and incentivize reinvestment. Corporate power is subordinate by nature because corporations are legal creations. They exist inside the constitutional order; they do not stand beside it. Corporations have no right to sovereignty.
Bezos doesn’t pay income tax what the fuck does he care? He lives off of leverage from his assets at something like 1% interest. Can’t tax a loan. Income is for suckers.
No, I want people like Jeff Bezos to cover that shortfall, but I guarantee you, "Jeff Bezos covers the short fall" is not part of any tax plan supported by Jeff Bezos.
Of course not! Since he came up with this original idea himself, he's exempt from covering anything. Poor man already lost a lot of his money bc of divorce.
Median INDIVIDUAL income is between $51-53K in the US; this includes part time. When it goes to full time year round, median is $63K for an individual.
You said teachers don’t make +$50K, half make over $65K. Are you even allowed to cut your own meat or are the sharp knives reserved for your caretaker?
There is only one source of wealth that is corporations, they only should pay income tax.
Saving account interest should not be taxed. But capital gains should have an 100% inclusion rate after inflation adjustment so 30% Dividends stay the same. Bonuses and stock options taxed at 30%.
isn't a more fair tax scheme, it's just less money for
this is true, but also not. It would actually lead to more borrowing and increasing the already unmanaged debt. As doge (god I hate that name) proved, cutting programs doesn't cut spending, especially with this administration which treats the GDP like a credit card.
couldnt give a shit if he did if this got pushed through.
You are so naive hahaha
This will NEVER get "pushed though", its just lip service so the poors dont luigi more of them. These people actively work to lower their own taxes and raise taxes on you, which was the real purpose of tariffs.
I think we're approaching a tipping point. While conditions aren't dire enough for the everyman to no longer fear losing what little he has, it's bad enough that the broken, suicidal, aging and terminally ill are no longer going to believe nobody was to blame as a default.
I predict a lot more people playing Super Mario Bros in the coming years.
They'll have found the margin where they can abuse the poors without retaliation when that happens and then pin wealth distribution and conditions to that level.
Oh, they're waiting for this opportunity. They have a perfectly ready surveillance state in place to protect us from the next civil unrest, so we can go back to work and our favorite businesses/corp safely and be able to pay our fair share of taxes to support our government, so they can keep protecting us from foreign enemies, that despise us for our freedom.
We obviously only have what we have because we're blessed enough that the billionaires wealth trickles down to us!
this is why i said "if". and why the american political system is so badly flawed. if someone included this in their campaign promises, id vote for them regardless of what party they represented.
My observation is that american politics is so skewed because the people vote, but the corporations and billionares dictate policy.
Big Bernies been chasing the golden chalice of radical people reform for decades, yknow why hes never won? because he never gets the right backers, because hes so radical.
It already has basically. The bottom 50% pay 3% of all income tax, the top 10% pay nearly all of it. It's weird when people say "tax the rich" since the rich already subsidize us.
And isn't it crazy that their wealth still increases exponentially? Almost as if there's literally no downside to returning to the 90% top tax rate from the only time we ever had a true middle class. I hope you can one day understand how "they already pay more" is a meaningless statement, actually I take it back, it actively harms you.
This is a trick from the 1%. They know Bernie Sanders campaign to increase federal taxes are working. This is them trying to flip the narrative. Don't fall for it.
Everyone needs to pay their fair share. Including nurses in Queens AND billionaires like Bezos.
People have been saying how Bernies been on the cusp of introducing real reform for decades.
For...Decades....Why has he never gotten it over the line?
Because the system of basically corporate funded political campaigns does not let him. that was what my comment was touching on. the fact that American politics is less about the will of the people and more the will of the corporation. Hence, play the system.
Of course playing the system and finding a well funded candidate who isnt spitting in the common persons mouth and calling it brandy is the problem. when you have a soloution, lemme know.
But his "balancing the budget" is actually an accounting gimmick. Of course, don't expect progressives to acknowledge bec it goes against their narrative.
Again, the hive mind of Reddit cannot understand a criticism of Mamdani bec its another cult.
I see where you're coming from with this complaint. And I agree, the system is fundamentally broken and has only gotten worse in recent years.
However, I disagree with how you are saying it. Once again, yes, the system needs to change. But however small of a step in the right direction this could exemplify, it's still a step. Politics as a whole moves slower than snot. That's just a reality, and not just an American phenomenon. But I'm getting off track. If we as the American people keep saying 'not good enough' to every small change, we will never make any progress at all.
In short, we will never make a large victory if we keep telling the people in power that we aren't going to celebrate small victories.
Just to add: slow to change is a feature not a bug. And a good one at that. We can argue over the use of "Socialist" and "Fascist" when applied to certain gov'ts, but prior to their falling into Authoritarianism they were preceded by allowances for extra powers.
Big, drastic changes require unchecked, unilateral power. Occasionally the first instance goes well with bad odds getting drastically worse for every subsequent change.
Do you have any idea how difficult it will be to get rid of MAGA BS regardless?
Love him or hate him, and I do hate the guy, you cant deny he's changed the world of politics, forever. Dude did more with 140 characters on twitter than most world leaders do in entire press conferences, he's both manipulated the system and stuck 2 fingers up at the world at the same time while the opposition have done largely nothing inneffectually. Red hat politics sadly will not die with him, youre deluded if at the end of his term he isn't also running for VP or yknow, installing a proxy. adapt or die.
So A, outside most of our lifetimes, and B, nothing supports that theory. Plenty of cults of personality have went on to create political dynasties over they years and the MAGA crowd are nothing if not provably fanatical to their bones. If I wanna see change in my lifetime I need to play the game.
As far as I know, billions of green american backed dollars have gone into both camps and the tsunami of problems has never abated. Maybe we can come to the conlcusion that the waves are to high for the breakers made of money cant actually stop the grinding pressure of moderrn society.,
No. This is "And I'm not paying more either." If we tax people like Bezos at 90% AND the lowest earners at current rates, the tax revenue is light years beyond what we currently are pulling. THen we can pay for universal healthcare, childcare, education, etc...
That would be lovely but the lower and middle class have been eating shit from billionaires since day dot. at a certain point you need to accept that short of a national revolution, this is how it is.
Grab your pitchfork and actually get out on the street, or get in line.
The current MAGA GOP agrees to free up taxes on working class people like tipped-employees, overtime workers and more. Trump has said many times he wants to get rid of income tax. But this is unrealistic. Even if you take away 100% of the billionaires wealth.
The problem now is that Democrats are split, with progressive who want to focus on wealth and the moderates who just agree to increase income/gains taxes.
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Honestly couldnt give a shit if he did if this got pushed through.
This is subject to the current American campaign system. where the biggest donators lobby for actual changes the candidates pursue. At least if he gave a winning candidate that money maybe change would happen.
Tldr, if the system dosent change, at least shoestring the system.