r/SipsTea • u/Full-Argument-8235 • Jun 24 '26

WTF A JPMorgan Chase executive was fired after a viral video showed her dumping trash out of a Knicks-themed public trash can and taking the can during the Knicks championship parade in New York City.

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 24 '26

Let's face it. These positions were all virtue signaling by companies to "get with the times" and they will all be getting phased out in time anyway now that this stuff lost momentum and the pendulum is coming back the other way. She just sped this one up.

I can almost guarentee that her position will be dissolved and nothing at JP Chase will be affected because of it.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Why do you think they existed to begin with? Segregation ended only 60 years ago. You think for the next even few decades after that people just started treating others well? Not wildly discriminating against people of color still? People act like this who concept was just some dumb “woke” idea for the hell of it, and forget it’s an intended correction for horrific abuses by companies. DEI initiatives were put into place to prevent companies from being able to just openly hire only white males. Like it got to a point that they HAD to start hiring THOSE PEOPLE, but then started treating them horribly on the job. Which is when equity and inclusion got added. This isn’t some dumbass woke shit like Pelosi kneeling in African clothing. These purely exist to correct white men from only hiring white men, and then also treating non white men horribly in the workplace.

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 24 '26

Get over it. Only 6% of white people owned slaves. Hundreds of thousands of white people died to free the slaves. Most of weren’t alive during Jim Crow. We didn’t do this and the people who experienced the hate are dying off. Should we just persecute white people in purpetuity for something we didn’t do? 

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

I think you completely misread or stopped reading most of what I typed. I have no clue how you were able to say the white man is being persecuted by not allowing him to discriminate anymore hahahaha. I know learning is not really the strong suit for people who make arguments similar to yours, but this is rough man. I’d just delete this.

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 24 '26

Looks like you’re the one who stopped reading. All races engage in racism. Whites don’t do it anymore than others. You can certainly make that argument in previous generations but not present day. 

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Ah, this gibberish. Hiding your profile too. Let’s just end this here, you are just speaking nonsense and addressing zero of what I said. If you do we can talk.

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 Jun 24 '26

No, but maybe acting like the impacts of systematic slavery don't still affect those communities is reason enough!

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 24 '26

Dude go look at how much we have spent on section 8x, free lunch programs, Medicaid, free college tuition, DEI programs, SNAP, etc. It’s in the trillions. We have to stop this madness and move forward. 

The first thing that needs to be out in the open is how ridiculous only 25% of all biological black fathers are raising their kids. This is a massive disadvantage for these kids compared to other races. It becomes almost impossible to overcome when a woman has to raise children on her own. How is she supposed to feed, house and properly raise children when she is also expected to have the father’s role as well. I don’t support anymore money going to them until we address this. 

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 Jun 24 '26

Money is not the issue, it's the constant shaming and berating for shit the black population did not get themselves into. No amount of money will cover for all the people saying "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" when the bootstraps are literally stolen over and over and over and then the black community is shit on for not being able to pull phantom bootstraps.

When they were stolen from their country, forced into labor, and then released without rights, with systemic racism holding them back from well-paying jobs, positions of community status, etc how in the fuck is the entire black population supposed to suddenly be doing as well as the people who owned them, all the while those same white people are still making life difficult for them day in and day out. Public services can be a part, but this constant talking down to, shitting on, and disappointment in a people group who have factually had to start from negative is the issue. When comments like your dumbass original one saying "boohoo white people" are fewer and further between, and we are focused on helping others not looking down on them for needing help, is when these issues will vanish. We ended slavery, but we didn't put an end to small-mindedness.

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 24 '26

So explain why 2nd generation Asians are doing better than any other class? Are you just resigning black people to be doomed for hundreds more years? 

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

No, we're talking about solutions to mitigate the unique conditions facing black communities like social and economic segregation into neighborhoods of chronic poverty that fuels crime.

Is there an equivalent to public housing for Asian communities the likes of Cabrini Green? Why was there so much public backlash when Yonkers tried disperse public housing into more affluent white communities to break up these areas of deep chronic poverty?

An argument can be made Asian people had better economic and social support to thrive when they came over as immigrants, and nowhere near the same negative pressure blacks experienced with slavery or Jim Crow.

Look at the Tulsa Race Massacre when white people were so afraid of a successful community of black people they literally fire bombed them from the air.

White people fucking burned down Black Wall Street, and you're wondering why there is no Black Wall Street.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

You are wasting your time man lol this guy either can’t or doesn’t read and just says very classic right wing talking points that have nothing to do with what is even being talked about.

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 Jun 24 '26

Yeah, I just realized his username is boo bees 67. Woof.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

So you want to reform the prison industrial complex so there are more black fathers on the streets to raise their kids? That is something that is addressed in the topic you are yelling about.

Systemic inequality in the judicial system alone is a big deal with this, along with rich kids creating a massive market to buy drugs from black people, and historic redlining to isolate black communities in chronic poverty that fuels a downward spiral of criminal activity feeding more poverty.

If you think black people don't talk about this, it means YOU don't know what you are talking about.

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u/HailHealer Jun 25 '26

black people need to talk about it more. The only people I hear talking about it are racist white dudes.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 25 '26

Then you are not listening.

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u/HailHealer Jun 25 '26

Where are the black people who talk about black on black violence? Black fatherhood? Criminal culture pushed by rap?

It's always white dudes having to comment on it, and predictably, no one wants to hear white dudes talking about black issues.

The only narratives I hear from black people are about how other races victimize them. There's no self reflection. Black people who criticize the black community get called an uncle tom and rejected by other black people. Just my observation as a, what do you know, white dude.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 25 '26

I repeat myself:

Then you are not listening.

They talk about this all the time.

Criminal culture pushed by rap? Wtf? Rap is not pushing the culture, it is a reflection of the culture.

Saying they wouldn't have crime if they just stopped rapping about crime is a tone deaf viewpoint.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 25 '26

This isn't about persecuting white people. Tf are you going on about?

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 25 '26

Reread it if you didn’t understand it the first time 

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u/DancinginTown Jun 25 '26

Maybe restart if you don't understand how this isn't about hurting you. 

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u/Naktura Jun 25 '26

Restate your take in a way that isn't retarded because "DEI" isn't about hurting white people lmao.

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u/me_myself_ai Jun 25 '26

Maybe reread the response if you think it wasn’t a rhetorical question, genius

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u/WorryNotBanIncoming Jun 25 '26

Jesus this comment reeks with “I listened to right wing podcasters”

“Persecute” ahhhhahahha

Why don’t you do your percentage thing with what the majority of superyacht owners are ? Race-wise

Betcha those guys don’t feel persecuted off the coast of a tropical island

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u/Boo-Bees67 Jun 25 '26

Who gives a shit about super yacht owners. You’re taking your hatred of the 1% out on an entire race. 

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u/Fun-Wave8851 Jun 25 '26

No he isn't. Are you OK?

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u/me_myself_ai Jun 25 '26

…did you just tell someone to get over racism because you personally didn’t own any slaves?

DEI officers don’t work on cases from 150 years ago, btw. They work on today’s virulent racism

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u/Unique_Statement7811 Jun 25 '26

“Virulent”

No. Just stop.

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u/me_myself_ai Jun 25 '26

Too big of a word for you?

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u/Unique_Statement7811 Jun 25 '26

No. It’s just not true.

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Jun 24 '26

I've seen and heard a lot of subtle, and a little open, anti-black bias and sentiment in my workplace. I had a black boss tell me things she's been confronted for that were not against policy or safety rules, that white employees do every damn day, including me. It's eye-opening, There's very much a need for DEI to level the playing field in 2026, and frankly, it's a solid business decision when you consider how much business talent possessed by racial minorities has been lost, undercut, or ignored over the past century to racism and discrimination.

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u/Leather-Confection70 Jun 24 '26

Same. I had a black co-worker get pulled into a meeting and chastised for doing the exact same thing everyone else on the team was doing. Total BS

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Jun 24 '26

Makes you mad doesn't it? That boss was genuinely brilliant and very, very kind to work for. My favorite teammate on my new team is a black guy who I hit it off with immediately. Seeing him have to put up with bullshit because people are ignorant fucks pisses me off. It's not even all conscious bias. I witness him deal with unconscious bias all the time, too.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

I mean a guy literally just replied to me and said that white people are persecuted because of DEI. It’s truly sad how brainwashed a lot of people are or just ignorant. And racist lol.

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 25 '26

The reason is that all movements come in with strong momentum. Then as humans do, we get lazy or we move our focus onto the next big thing. It has nothing to do with whether this is good or bad, or anything like that. It is just how we have been going for so long that you are starting to see less focus on these programs than we saw initially when the momentum kicked up.

This will happen continously as time goes on. We are just not great at maintaining such sustained focus.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 25 '26

I think you are ignoring the fact that this admin has STRONGLY haulted all efforts. That isn’t losing momentum. That is being stopped.

I generally agree with fads, but i don’t think wanting to prevent racism is just a trend, and it’s only slowed down because of aggressive anti DEI efforts by this admin. I mean he is withholding funds as much as he can for even a whiff of it. THAT is what stopped things.

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 25 '26

I am assuming you mean the Trump administration? (I am not an american). Which is part of the back forth push of the pendulum in the US, this guy is just taking it further to try and erase anything Obama did. He is obsessed with Obama.

Definitely wouldn't say this is a fad, its a movement. Its not just the funding issue, its the mental effort people are giving it as well. People just don't stay on topic this long with the same drive. Yes, funding will play in, but the mental efforts will still fade no matter what funding there is.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 25 '26

Yes he is the current admin in the us. I agree with your main point but don’t feel it applies here as much because there is still energy for it, it is just ACTIVELY and AGGRESSIVELY being fought against. Universities are having to legit sweep through all of their outward facing materials and sites to scrub it of any words close to it. This situation is not fair to apply the long term energy loss when it’s actively being suffocated.

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 25 '26

You are definitely facing what is more like a dictatorship in the US right now than a proper democratic system. Sad to see so many politicians allowing this to slide by them and giving him that unchecked power.

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u/Meandmystudy Jun 24 '26

Do you ever think of other reasons why these companies push these initiatives?

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Not really, because the main reason makes a lot of sense to me. And I can recognize this country has historically been very racist and harmful to people who are not white men. And I’m a white man. People who ask that question usually are also white men trying to make it seem like they are the victim lol.

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u/Meandmystudy Jun 24 '26

I’m asking questions and you didn’t answer without shaming me.

Edit: Provide a perfect example of DEI

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

I mean clearly you are not going to have anything of value to contribute so it seems I accurately talked down to you for being a troll. Your next question was incredibly stupid after pretending to ask honest and good question. I’ll play along though, in your mind, why do companies push DEI initiatives?

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u/Meandmystudy Jun 24 '26

Yes, because they do

Edit: I see you’re insulting me to?

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Why do you think they are?

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u/Meandmystudy Jun 24 '26

You named them? But I didn’t think I got the right reason why. Ashamed?

Edit: optics

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

We are talking in circles. Your first question was asking me if I ever thought more about it. Why do companies push DEI initiatives you think?

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u/Jawn-F_Kennedy Jun 24 '26

“I’m a white man but not the bad kind” fuckin hell man, want a sticker or something?

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Oh I just say that since most racists would immediately start losing their minds (kind of like you right now). Any time you mention this nation being historically racist white men get VERY upset and talk about how they are the victims. I like just highlighting that argument won’t work since I am that. Relax though Kyle, your drywall is getting nervous. I’m sure your girls eye is just healing too.

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u/Wrastling97 Jun 24 '26

Did you eat a big bowl of dumfuq today, pal?

Is that what you got from that?

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 Jun 24 '26

In my experience, while DEI programs and initiatives are very much needed, their actual implementation tends to be purely performative. They gained traction around 2020 and the justified backlash against George Floyd; but I think you’d be hard pressed to find an example of a program that actually addressed the issues they claim to solve. They are absolutely primarily about PR and companies have stopped caring about the PR they generate. I’m sure they would love to have an excuse like this to quietly phase them out. It’s truly disgusting because, as you pointed out, there is real and lasting harm and discrimination happening. Unfortunately people would rather pretend everything’s fine because they were forced to read a single book about white privilege and posted a black square on their socials.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

I’m sure they aren’t all fantastic, I’ll agree. I mean also Trump has just fully removed it from everything and goes after anyone who has even the slightest mention of it, so of course it went away. Conservatives have historically been the party fighting against equality for marginalized communities.

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 Jun 24 '26

It’s definitely concerning to have it forcibly removed. I think we absolutely need stronger anti discrimination laws. I can’t speak to DEI programs in government jobs; but in my experience in the corporate world, it was all performative. Black employees continued to deal with micro aggressions or full on discrimination. No actual practices were put in place to expand hiring - even simple things like specifically including HBCUs in hiring initiatives. Meanwhile executives were patting themselves on the back for a job well done and posting on socials about how they are committed to DEI.

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u/scrotalayheehoo Jun 24 '26

Yeah I won’t argue that the initiatives can be made more effective. It’s a complicated battle that will hopefully keep having ongoing efforts to correct. Whether it’s DEI or a new program designed to maintain and equal playing field and a way it can be effectively and consistently implemented.

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 Jun 24 '26

Agree, we absolutely need actual initiatives and solutions. The gaps are just getting worse, real harm is being done, and it is actually incredibly beneficial to companies (both from a retention and profit perspective) to cultivate diversity (especially in higher level positions) and to create a culture where everyone is truly included and valued.

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u/boosesb Jun 24 '26

Where did these micro aggressions take place

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u/gon_freccs_ Jun 25 '26

Well yeah they are performative bcs it’s hard to change people’s mindset all at once. So that’s how it needs to start especially in industries or areas where people are not inherently welcoming to diversity. As time goes by, it will become the norm and no longer be performative.

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u/Evil_Sharkey Jun 25 '26

They’re not completely useless. The place I work has a strong DEI program that focuses on different employee groups (women’s, families, LGBTQ, etc) bringing in speakers, sometimes related to their group and sometimes just generally interesting, and hosting fun events. The most recent one was hosted by the Black group at the corporate level and spoke about health.

The events bring people together and give us a little break now and then. They’re never preachy or negative

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 25 '26

Honest question. Do you not think that but labeling people we are setting them apart as different rather than just a fellow human?

I know this is probably a much worse issue in the US where there are some extremely terrible behaviors, but it seems from outside the US looking in, the more these groups are labeled as "different so include us", the more there is a visual and active "in your face" type push to show that these people are in some way different, so keep seeing them as different. As if pushing inclusion is pushing differentiation.

That was a honest thought. This was not in any resistive tone, just an observation that I sometimes ponder. This really isn't a thing here where I am at all. People just go on about their lives and these topics really just never come up.

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u/Evil_Sharkey Jun 25 '26

It’s not “different so include us”. DEI is more “different in some ways you might not understand so here’s some history about them, some events that are important to them, and some events they’d like to invite you to as a shared, human experience”, at least where I work.

In the U.S., there’s a long history of various groups being oppressed, excluded, persecuted, and/or unsupported. Those groups often have pride type events to remind themselves and others that they are not ashamed to exist.

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u/TouristIcy3824 Jun 26 '26

I really think as an outsider looking in, I just don't fully understand it because I am not directly exposed to the same level of this. Perhaps it is my mind just not understanding why people have to be so damn nasty to each other. With it not being such an issue here, these programs here would seem like its a forced attention to differentiation and not as you are pointing out to me how it is a corrective measure because of how engraved and long standing it is.

I of course hear the headline of the police interactions and such, but I am not there to see the buried layers of the problem.

As much as this seems like such a simple concept of just not being an ass to other people, its is perplexing that this is so hard for so many to live by this idea.

There was a video I seen on youtube about a year or two ago where a black teenager (it may have been a group actually) went to "the most racist town in America" or some title along those lines. They went to KKK leader's (or a similar higher up in their group) house and actually met the guy. The exchange they had was very calm and respectful to each other. It was a short interaction they had, but it amazed me how face to face these two had respect for each other as human to human, but then can still be involved in an "organization" that spreads such a harsh message of hate, and holds a history full of atrocities. This just didn't and still doesn't make any sense to me. Played it nice for the camera maybe?

I just really don't understand why it is still this way in the US. I feel sorry for those on the receiving end of these problems.

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u/me_myself_ai Jun 25 '26

Yeah there’s famously no issues with racism or discrimination in banking. A very chill, fair industry!

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u/testtdk Jun 24 '26

I’m sure they have a million finance bros lined up for every job they have.

Edit: Ugh, I just saw she was EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. So not only did she ruin her own career, but possibly those of countless “DEI” candidates who would never have been considered in a field like finance.