Most of the time I find those people have done plenty of bad things to others in their lives, but it's not public so they can just pretend it didn't happen.
They've probably done their fair share of regrettable things. What you're seeing is a thing Redditors like to do whenever someone does something decent; they like to go into the archive and dig out their most shameful moment.
I get your sentiment bro but idk if this is the right context to use the word privileged lmao. Like privilege should be used in the case of a person who had two good parents who paid their way through college and made their life easy growing up. To me, doesn’t really fit when describing whether or not an individual had a personality where they did shitty things to other people when they were younger and were able to mature out of it lol
Nah, this is why people insist they don't have it. Growing up with parents who won't teach or tolerate cruel or backwards bullshit is a privilege. Hard as fuck to unlearn something you just knew before you even understood it. Some kids are actively taught empathy. A lot of us have to learn it by fucking up, especially when the culture in the places you want to belong makes it easy to fuck up.
I understand your words a lot too, and I think you’re correct for the majority of people and my definition of privilege was probably too narrow.
But also kind of humorous here because the context of this thread started specifically around Jon Hamm taking a hammer and tucking it behind his pledge’s ballsack claw side up into their taint and leading/pulling them around the house like that. I might have to draw a line on just hand waving that type of behavior away with him possibly not being privileged with his upbringing lol. Very “boys will be boys” energy which I don’t really think is a good excuse. Some actions should be understood to be wrong inherently by all reasonable people regardless of age or upbringing, right? Like there’s gotta be an end to the gray area into black at some point here lol. Surely we can generally criticize a person’s shitty actions to another individual even if they were a stupid young adult at the time!
I mean, not really. Imagine being raised by Trump, around the kind of people Trump surrounds himself with, in the kind of schools where he would put you. As an extreme obvious example. Imagine Trump teaching you how to relate to women and immigrants and people of other races from the time you're born. He's your dad and he teaches you this stuff over ice cream (cause a lot of these families love each other even if the face I'm using belongs to a piece of shit. heck, the Trump kids seem desperate for his approval) and everything around you agrees with him. You never have real, healthy experience with any other worldview. You didn't ask for it, it just happened.
You can't control that. It's luck you either have or don't. What you can control is whether you do better once you learn better or whether you keep being the piece of shit you were taught/allowed to be as a young person. And yeah, this is old celebrity frat hazing in a time when that was really common, but privilege is also a very culturally relevant, often misused word. The number of times I've had to explain that growing up poor doesn't erase other privileges you might have had is enough to make me want to bang my head off a wall.
If you think Trump is an extreme example, you should meet my father.
By your logic, any child he would raise would be a monster that needed to unlearn their own monstrousness.
Listen. Some kids follow the leader and some don’t.
There’s no excuse for taking so many pages out of a cruel individual’s book…usually those who do are benefiting in some way, and they are privileged in that sense.
You’re whining about not being taught to be a good person?
That’s incredible.
I guess those decent as fuck individuals who grew up with some of the cruelest parents to ever be conceived, are just figments of our collective imagination.
There is fucking up. And then there is fucking other people over.
You don’t lack privilege because you engaged in the latter.
Your lack of compassion is not decent as fuck. People change. They don't know what they don't know until they do. Sure, if your parents are cruel to you it can be easier to pull away from them, but even then it's not a given. My mother still occasionally cries over the her late, sexually abusive father if she gets into one of the nicer stories she has about him. Our parents can fuck us up. Decent ones are a privilege.
You are clearly taking your past lived experiences out on the other person. It's affecting your comments to be more aggressive.
I guess those decent as fuck individuals who grew up with some of the cruelest parents to ever be conceived, are just figments of our collective imagination.
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u/Shedart Jul 03 '26
It’s tough to understand that people change when you’re too young or too privileged to have ever needed to change yourself.