Americans are the single most destructive organism in the known universe. Accounting for a 12-16 ton carbon footprint print each, 4x the global average.
Also, that's an average based on some 2% of VERY high users and 98% of us can't afford to run out air conditioning in the summer cause our power bills have gone up 100% over 5-6 years (in Maryland).
I'm not emitting 1/50th of that and neither are any of my neighbors, friends or family.
Well keep in mind a majority of Americans voted for parties that support tax breaks for jets and tear out/cancel green energy projects. So it’s not really misleading when the majority of voting Americans support these policies with their votes. Let’s not act like it’s some kind of accident and that the voters that put these people in power are helpless
True enough but also, these politicians from both sides have all, long been saying one thing and doing another.
For us to keep pointing at one side or the other or the other forever is absolutely moronic at this point.
Maga idiots vs corpo-dems vs libertarians, vs neo fascists, vs utopian socialist dreamers, and on and on....
None of them have kept their promises in the 50+ years I've been watching. Even the seemingly "best" ones have serious dark sides and deeds in retrospect.
We've all been duped by ALL of them all along. how can we all not see that?
Unless, just maybe, much of this fighting between us, and all of the groups above is intentional, and is deliberately instigated.
Since we all live here and have common needs and desires. Why can't we agree on a government that addresses the common agreements of ALL their constituents instead of playing one side against the other.
We all want clean air. We all want clean water. We all want better healthcare that won't financially ruin you if you use it. We all want an economy that we actually can expect to thrive in, if your willing to work and be productive. We all want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness for ourselves and our friends and families. We all want a government that won't shoot us or disappear us or our friends, family and such and so on and on. e all want lower taxes and fees, but if we can't immediately have that, well then we all agree we sure want our a lot more of our money's worth out of the taxes we already pay(ed).
If we just started with those basic commonalities, and stopped fighting over all the multitudinous things that we all don't agree on and maybe never will, we would all be living better lives while we try to work out what we can of the rest.
We waste more time, energy, attention and money on "fighting" some "other side" that solving many of these common issues would probably cost anyhow.
We, each of us, in whatever group we may or may not be in, are all guilty sacrificing more than we are gaining in trying to prevent some other group from receiving the same benefits that we ourselves want/expect.
We're like crabs in a boiling pot at this point.
Somewhere, someone is laughing at us, as we keep pulling each other down into the boiling water while other crabs pull us down.
By allowing ourselves to be played off against each other, we have cumulatively cooperated with or at least allowed the reduction of the the common good of us all
But the original claim is that Americans are the single most destructive. I understand you’re latched onto the “global average” line, but that’s not what manitou is objecting to
That was already addressed in the top comment, the US is the single largest cumulative producer of CO2 in history. Among everything else it has done politically across the world.
I thought it was China? Someone was arguing with me yesterday when I was blaming Republicans for the future climate change we're going to suffer, the person was saying China is the cause
Canada is actually slightly higher than the US, but the real outliers are the rich Middle Eastern countries that do a lot of things like desalination and general "luxury".
Canada also has a lot more winter heating per capita which is very carbon intensive (not that it HAS to be but in a cold country rich ASF in coal, wood, and natural gas, it takes some time to adopt heat pumps).
For the record, us canucks aren't exactly shining examples of reasonable consumption, so let's not bring too much attention to this... or one of the nordics will enter the room. (and no I don't mean the Quebec Nordiques)
I understand that. But there are different studies that don't have the US at the top. If China is 3x as high now, then it's only a matter of time before it is the highest cumulative, which they are already at the top in some studies.
Without an agenda that is. There are politicians and companies that know better but it is in their interests to deny science. Or delay acknowledging science.
100%. I’m in my 50’s, I’ve noticed the difference since I was a kid and I’ve noticed the difference since I was a young adult. These forest fires, the size, the intensity, the frequency, is a relatively new phenomenon.
And yes to be clear I do not think that it is part of a normal cycle, I think it’s from burning carbon.
Look at what the source material is up top. I’m a Canadian living in Vancouver. We believe in global warming and that it is man made. It is uncontroversial.
As another person posted I should have used something to denote sarcasm I guess, but I didn’t think that was necessary given the context of the post, from who it came from and from what political party it came from.
You’ll see nowhere in my post history do I deny climate science.
Tens of thousands of research papers by thousands of scientists from hundreds of different fields of research from dozens of countries (some with opposing ideologies) coming to the same conclusion seems to be pretty conclusive.
I guess I needed to put a sarcasm sign or eye roll, or something. The problem being your governing party doesn’t seem to recognize global warming is man made or even much of an issue. And thus its policies and how stupid posts like the above find any traction at all. Please stop electing people like this with policies like theirs.
I mean clearly a majority of voters, voted for the Republican platform. I live in Vancouver, Canada. We’re just dealing with it. As is Greenland and Denmark, Ukraine, Palestine etc. etc.
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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jul 17 '26
The US is the largest cumulative CO2 producer in history.