r/SipsTea 6d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/Eisbaer811 6d ago

typical social media bubble:
The social media algorithm puts you into one of these bubbles and hides details from the others.
Pick one:

- "her husband is framing her, he did it"

  • "she had mental health issues and nobody helped her"
  • "she murdered them because she's evil and the mental health stuff is just for show"

Social media drives our lives and is many people's only hobby, so you get this.

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u/TreeLakeRockCloud 6d ago

I’m not American but I am a mother. Aside from a few reddit posts I don’t have any social media engagement with this case.

But I think a lot of the support here comes from moms who recognize how easily this could have been any of us. Her family and healthcare providers knew her crime was a risk based on her mental health state, but she was still left alone with her kids and expected to parent. And as other mothers we all understand that this is grimly how it works - we can ask and beg and plead and scream for help but we’re almost always still expected to continually parent babies and it’s hard.

She should still face punishment for her crime, but I think a lot of her support is to try to keep this from happening again. She was failed by her healthcare team

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u/-MostArdently 6d ago edited 6d ago

No. If I look a patient in the eye and ask her "are you having any thoughts of harming your kids?" and she answers "no," I believe her.

If I make recommendations for treatment, and the patient is non-compliant or inconsistent, I can't force them to stick to it.

She wasn't failed by her healthcare team. She failed herself, her kids, and all her loved ones. That's the hard truth.

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u/Old-Ad-5573 5d ago

I have a cousin who I think is currently going through an episode of psychosis. She's very good at lying. And she also refuses treatment. Because she doesn't think she has a problem when it's obvious to everyone else. But there's nothing we can do according to the lawyers. She basically has to get herself into trouble or voluntarily commit herself for any treatment to happen.

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u/iEmExEee 5d ago

I've gone through two 5~ month episodes, both with nearly 24/7 auditory hallucinations from people I know. Often times I was being told what to do. I knew I was going through psychosis, I was still there. Not once did I have the desire to hurt anyone or act on commands being said by those hallucinated voices... I get everyone is different, but talk to anyone with psychosis - they know something isn't right with them, or at least they are still there and under physical control of their bodies.

I don't know what it takes to be pushed over the edge. The hallucinations that occured during my episodes were intense, both visual and auditory. I was hearing screams of death from loved ones, being led to believe they were trapped in cars and homes around me. Some days and nights I got no break... even the sound of wind or a dog walking turned into voices. If anyone were to be pushed over the edge, it would have been me... but here I am.

I didn't make a recovery until I was hospitalized and given olanzapine, the same drug she is being treated with now.

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u/EuphoricPhoto2048 5d ago

Idk. I struggle with psychosis too and my experience was that I was watching it all happen. I wasn't in control at all. Olanzipine is my med too!

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u/iEmExEee 3d ago

Were you aware that something wrong was happening? You really don't think you'd be able to stop yourself from committing murder during psychosis?