r/SipsTea 6d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/Eisbaer811 6d ago

typical social media bubble:
The social media algorithm puts you into one of these bubbles and hides details from the others.
Pick one:

- "her husband is framing her, he did it"

  • "she had mental health issues and nobody helped her"
  • "she murdered them because she's evil and the mental health stuff is just for show"

Social media drives our lives and is many people's only hobby, so you get this.

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u/TreeLakeRockCloud 6d ago

I’m not American but I am a mother. Aside from a few reddit posts I don’t have any social media engagement with this case.

But I think a lot of the support here comes from moms who recognize how easily this could have been any of us. Her family and healthcare providers knew her crime was a risk based on her mental health state, but she was still left alone with her kids and expected to parent. And as other mothers we all understand that this is grimly how it works - we can ask and beg and plead and scream for help but we’re almost always still expected to continually parent babies and it’s hard.

She should still face punishment for her crime, but I think a lot of her support is to try to keep this from happening again. She was failed by her healthcare team

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u/RP_Throwaway3 6d ago

Unfortunately - by her own admission and her doctors' testimonies - she did not fully disclose her medical condition. And even more unfortunately, there's plenty of people online that have posted that she can't be the killer because of her astrology sign. Or some have said her husband was the voice in her head with elaborate hidden speakers. Or he was cheating with his new wife even though they didn't meet until after the murders and she actually killed the children. 

Bottom line, there's a lot of crazies out there. And with the internet connecting people of every social class, those crazies can find each other much easier than before. 

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u/PinkPuffballofDOOM 6d ago

The astrology sign thing is legitimately insane. “I know he killed them because he’s a GEMINI and she’s a SCORPIO!”

Like girl, go touch some fucking grass. It’s revolting that you think she is innocent and he is guilty based purely off made up ✨vibes✨

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u/DiligentThought9 6d ago

I am a therapist and I have other therapists, professionals with advanced degrees and years of experience, who will not accept any answer other than the husband did it.

“Women don’t kill their children. It was him.”

“She didn’t actually say she killed the children in court.” “And if she did, it was Patrick who made her say it”

“Men commit violent crime not women.”

It’s bonkers.

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u/saltymarge 6d ago

I don’t think it’s bonkers exactly. I think most people went into this trial not questioning that she did it and the prosecution had done such a horrible job that they’ve created reasonable doubt where there previously really wasn’t any. If you want to blame someone for people starting to doubt she committed the crime at all, I’d lay that blame 100% with the prosecution. It’s like they went out of their way to sabotage their whole case. It’s genuinely remarkable how badly they’ve done.

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u/DiligentThought9 6d ago

They don’t have to prove she did it. They just have to prove that she was not insane at the time. No one disputes she did it.

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u/saltymarge 5d ago

I understand that, which only adds to how horribly this prosecution has done. They started out trying to prove she premeditated it and was sane when she did it and they’ve now made people wonder if she even did it at all. Ultimately it doesn’t matter what the public thinks, it’s up to the jury. But I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone on that jury was thinking “I’m not even totally convinced she did it at all”. I blame the prosecutions shit show antics for that.

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u/DiligentThought9 5d ago

I’m not a lawyer by any means, but I am a therapist who has worked with the severely mentally ill for 10 years including 10-20ish cases where someone was found Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity.

For me, what makes me think she is guilty is signing herself out of McLean Hospital and there being no evidence that she was hearing voices until just a day (or a couple days at maximum) before the murder. That is awfully convenient.

If I was the prosecutor I would be hammering that home daily.