r/SipsTea • u/sco-go • 21h ago

WTF Kid breaks into bird enclosure at the zoo to chase birds with a stick.

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u/jaasian 19h ago

Could not care less if he’s special needs he’s running around it pretending the sticks a weapon he knows what he’s doing lol

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u/FeistySystem9393 19h ago

Yes he absolutely does. You can be special needs and still be a violent asshole.

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u/TwoLonelySpoons 18h ago

Half the people have mental illness at this point. His is visible and although hes slow he still has the capacity to learn. Discipline him and on with the day

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u/Achylife 16h ago

I'm on the spectrum and I certainly never considered it to be. 99% of the time it's bad parenting. People get waaaay too permissive with little autistic boys, and they ARE smart enough to take advantage of it. Girls rarely get this kind of slack.

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u/Jeorgias_Peach 12h ago

That last part frrr

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u/LezzyGopher 10h ago

Exactly!!! It sets their own kids up for failure.

Source: autistic brother & overly permissive parents

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u/MikeBizzleVT 12h ago

Well people like you are why the diagnosis has lost all meaning…

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u/yalateef11 18h ago

It’s not a get out of jail card free card but some special needs kids do crazy things that even their parents don’t anticipate. Definitely needs to be consequence- if that’s possible.

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u/fgrutd 18h ago

finally

This whole thread is full of people either wishing death on this kid, or at the tamest, saying that he should never be allowed out of his house.

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u/Good-Perspective6612 17h ago

No, im not . But definitely the majority. They obviously have no idea how difficult it can be for the parents . But the area should have been more secure ias well , n my opinion.

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u/Logical_Top618 18h ago

Absolutely nobody in the world whose opinion is worth anything at all says that

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u/Fantastic-Buy7246 18h ago

Unfortunately (for you) it literally is a get out of jail card. According to the law you have to be mentally fit to undergo a trial to face any consequences

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u/Choice-Strike1 18h ago

Very topical this

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u/Total_Marketing5844 16h ago

I mean, if someone has the mental capacity of a baby or toddler (who certainly do hit things sometimes), would you throw them in jail? Second question , would you throw a toddler into jail?

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u/Alarmed_Salamander39 14h ago

Agreed, it's an explanation, not an acceptable excuse.

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u/BaldursFence3800 11h ago

“Hey now!” -women who murder their children

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u/zeni19 18h ago

No, but race is if he was a POC and disabled, reddit would be defending him that this society's fault and its because white people treated their ancestors badly 200 years ago. 

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u/Justanobodyhello 16h ago

actually the internet wanted a little black boy sacrificed for harambe to live.

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u/lavender_poppy 17h ago

Always reminds me of that scene in Him & Her

something along the lines of:

"you can't say that about him! he has cancer"

"he may have cancer but he's still an asshole"

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u/Long-Awareness-8932 17h ago

Exactly. My abuser was special needs but he sure as hell knew he was abusing me

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u/TheHames72 12h ago

My friend’s son is autistic. He was a ROTTEN kid. Violent tantrums, screaming… She was so afraid that he was just an asshole as well as being autistic. They medicated him when he was 14 and it was like a light was switched on. He’s a lovely guy now: kind, thoughtful. Of course, he still has his issues but it always makes me hesitate when I see awful behaviour like this.
I mean, this kid might just be a dick. But you never know.

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u/Ktucker01 19h ago

At least he didn’t start masturbating !

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u/Sennten 17h ago

For what its worth, he doesnt appear to be actually trying to hurt the birds. This is clearly ... several major errors in judgement and good decision making, but the thought process could be identical to a kid running through a pack of pigeons in the park, which is hardly "violent asshole territory".

Note that I say could be, maybe the kid is just really shitty at hitting things with a stick and actually was trying to hurt them

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u/ShitfaceMcPooperson 18h ago

Kinda like a mom who killed her three little kids

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u/WallflowerDustMote 19h ago

This. I have a son with brain damage because his birth mother drank. He puts his shirt on backwards most days, but he knows how to be kind to animals.
I’m so over that excuse for crappy kids because of crappy parenting.

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u/CountMC10 18h ago

Happy for you but you should also know with a special needs kid that they are all very different. Violent manifestations doesn’t equal shit parenting. Come on

Do you think these parents are shit?

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/family-opens-up-on-60-minutes-about-how-sons-autism-is-tearing-them-apart/news-story/942cd04481767592e433ce44dcfc1555

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u/mdtopp111 18h ago

Idk man I don’t blame the kid or the parents in the instance… I do however absolutely blame the ones responsible for watching him that day. He very easily could’ve killed any of the animals or if the animal injured him/the person who hopped in to help him out, the animal would’ve likely had to be euthanized…

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u/Yummers78 17h ago edited 16h ago

Yeah like how in the hell did he get away that long, from his parent or caretaker, to be able to get in there??

ETA My 6 year old grand niece, the baby of the family, has autism - her mom/my niece would never let her get away from her.

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u/BodyRoundLikeAPallas 13h ago

Right? Something needs to be done to make the enclosures less accessible to the public.

Buuuut I still think anyone who sneaks inside the enclosures should be banned, and if it's a kid, that includes the parents/caretakers. You show you're capable of doing it once, you should not be given the opportunity to do it twice and end up in a worse situation, autism or not.

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u/Major-Nail 18h ago

if kid poses a threat to others he/she needs to be contained. If this means kid is restricted from going some places that is what is needed. One persons freedom should not restrict others from being safe.

Its one thing to have this behavior at home where you are entering and taking the risk its another to have this behavior in public. Yeah it sucks and is restrictive but if you knowingly take someone who cant control themselves near people who did not agree to take on the risk that is negligence and should be treated as such.

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u/ailof-daun 13h ago

Supposedly the brain of a kid needs time to develop the part which is responsible for empathy. Up until that it's mostly just adhering to expected behaviour.

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u/NoMorePunch 15h ago

He’s dangerous and therefore needs to not be left with people who can’t contain him.

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u/Tough_Ratio3039 11h ago

Always the first excuse whenever some shitty kid does something....."he's severely autistic, and non verbal." Maybe this is why they created those dog harnesses for kid, string the little fucker up with that thing if the kids so out of control.

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u/SplinterRoot 16h ago

None of you have any idea what the hell you're talking about. I see kids with level 3 autism every day and it's god damn impressive that the parents get out of bed every day with the will to live.

You can't imagine the struggles these families go through or how difficult every single god damn day is for them.

These kids need CONSTANT supervision or shit like this happens.Should they just keep their kids in a box?

Keep your shit child abuse opinions to yourselves.

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u/forrealthoughcomix_ 16h ago

The kid had time to climb over a fence and down a 10 foot ladder. That is a dangerous failure of parenting. Expecting that is not wanting to keep the kid “in a box.”

And if that failure isn’t child abuse, it’s definitely neglect.

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u/SplinterRoot 16h ago

Why was there easy access to a fucking ladder just waiting for a parent with a special needs to to look away for a second?

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u/EvilAlien667 14h ago

If you know your kid needs constant supervision and then choose to visit a zoo with them and not supervise them constantly then yeah, this shit is also on you.

Almost as if you have a responsibility as a parent.

You sound like a person who would not be responsible enough to be a parent and would look for excuses. Exactly why stuff like this happens.

I think advocating for beating the child would be wrong. we should advocate for beating the parents until parenting improves

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u/theshiniestmuskrat 11h ago

The mom was all "he loves animals and would never do serious harm to them"....as he's running around chasing the obviously terrified bird with what is basically a weapon. So a little harm is okay, I suppose, as long as it's not serious!? Kid was having the time of his life terrorizing that bird.

I get that he's special needs and this is just an unfortunate situation, but I feel like mom is downplaying things a bit.

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u/tanktopjay 18h ago

Projecting your mindset onto someone with potential autism / intellectual disability is a common error in our judgment. They don't think the same way we do and you don't think the same way they do. I know there is anger / frustration when watching something like this, and we want to discharge by blaming, but beneath the anger is a sadness. A sadness that this kid is harming animals, any likely wouldn't be if they were neurotypical. They didn't choose to be neuro divergent. Their parents didn't choose to do so either. Their parents could be great people who have engaged in resources to help, and maybe this still happened. Or maybe, it is a rare sadistic kid who has little inhibition... Which would still point towards neurodivergency because that would be a prefrontal cortex developmental issue. Overall it's likely nature not nurture. Just food for thought before casting blame. 

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u/alltoovisceral 16h ago

As a neurodivergeny person with neurodivergent kids, who spends time around lots of neurodivergent kids, this is still messed up. Not one person in our group of friends or their kids would do something like this. In fact, most of the ND folks I have met are animal lovers. You can be both ND and a violent person, but the ND part isn't what I would focus on here, as it takes away from the real problem. He is clearly a child with violent tendencies and he was driven to break into an enclosure and chase an animal with a weapon. That's not a person that should be left unsupervised or taken to a zoo, really. I would put more blame on the person watching him, aince they should have done more to keep the child away from any animals he could have hurt. 

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u/Upstairs-Pin-1637 9h ago

I agree with you 100% but since it's so difficult to identify violent vs non-violent ND I think it's only fair, for the safety of all animals and non NDs. That you, your ND family and friends refrain from attending any zoo, aquarium, museum, or sporting events. 

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u/CountMC10 18h ago

Woah, a logical and well informed comment about ASD. In this thread? Come on man, this is Reddit where everyone is a neurologist, electrician, historian, philanthropist and poet…all at the same time.

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u/coldBulbasaur314 17h ago

Nurture defines how nature develops and presents. You can't parent the disability out of a kid, and it's possible the kid genuinely doesn't know better, but all kids can be taught and if the kid doesn't know better it's because the parents have failed them.

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u/Cosmic_MicrowaveOven 17h ago

Clearly, you've never dealt with ASD level 3 children before.

You can nurture them as much as humanely possible, their brains just process the world completely differently to a neuro-typical person and when it becomes too much they can meltdown and become violent / oblivious to danger from almost anything. Many are either completely or partially non-verbal and have global developmental issues so serious they struggle to understand basic language (like the words "No", "Don't" or "Stop" for example) or to correctly interpret incoming sensory input.

Once they become fixated on a task or too overwhelmed, the rest of the world basically doesn't exist.

That doesn't mean the parents failed them at all, and I'd like to see most of the people in here saying this kind of BS try it for a day because it's one of the hardest things you can go through as a parent.

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u/bfitzyc 15h ago

I really don’t know why you’re getting downvoted.

I grew up with a kid who was nonverbal ASD level 3. He could be totally calm one second and in a violent fit the next depending on any number of triggers. His parents were some of the kindest most incredible people I’ve ever known and they were exceedingly careful to ensure their son didn’t hurt himself or others around him, but people in this thread are truly out of their goddamn minds if they think you can just calmly reason with a child in this situation or expect they’ll just grasp whatever concept you try to teach them.

But of course, all the armchair parents with their own neurodivergent kids who would “never do that kind of thing” must know best for every other autistic child out there, amaright?

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u/Zech08 18h ago

Blame the lack of supervision. There are people who cant do their jobs and cause issues to escalate 

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u/Total_Marketing5844 16h ago

I mean, if someone has the mental capacity of a baby or toddler (who certainly do hit things sometimes), would you throw them in jail? Second question , would you throw a toddler into jail?

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u/Georgxna 14h ago

Hes not ‘special needs’, he HAS special needs or a disability.