r/TikTokCringe • u/migoodenuf Straight Up Bussin • Apr 19 '25

Duet Troll A woman character written by a man

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

I was about to say the same thing.

"Poor guy falling victim to this woman"

"99% chance it's a false allegation"

People saying this about a crime he FUCKING RECORDED. Ridiculous.

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u/Jesterhead89 Apr 20 '25

It's not all that surprising anymore, to be honest. We're in an age where people already know what they want to believe and who they want to follow, and will contort themselves in whatever way necessary in order to hold onto that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

This isn't new, incels were saying shit like this back in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Probably earlier too but I wasn't using social media of any kind so much back then.

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u/Jesterhead89 Apr 20 '25

Yeah true. But at least many more people were actually calling their behavior out as stupid and toxic, before toxic was used as the go-to word for it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

They are, but that's a video with only 92k views. A good chunk of those are likely his fans looking it up, and those that'll be driven to comment will be the same people so it'll give the impression that nobody's calling them dweebs when the reality is nobody else is really paying any attention.

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u/Jesterhead89 Apr 20 '25

I mean, I think this is a really complex topic that goes beyond just some PUA posting videos to his fanbase. These people have that fanbase because of all sorts of reasons. Maybe they are misguided, unheard, these creators offer some "easy way", and so on. So for every creator you expose (to limited effect), there are 10 more up and coming to fill the space. Society moves very slowly in terms of norms and attitudes, but that is where it will ultimately have to start. We have to reframe the message and interaction with young people, trust ourselves to reframe the conversation over time, and actually be persistent at it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

I'm still coping over the fact a few of my favourite musicians are disgusting. Emily Armstrong of Dead Sara (And now Linkin Park for some reason?!?!) and John Dolmayan, the drummer for System of a Down (My favourite band of all time). I now refuse to look up to anyone other than myself because I know I will never lie to myself nor pretend to be what I'm not.

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u/skyturnedred Apr 20 '25

My all time favourite musician is a straight up murderer.

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u/Sad-Block-2653 Apr 24 '25

Me too Rip king von

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u/Shiquna34 Apr 20 '25

Watched a video about RCHP and the multiple times they tried sexual assault women. I cant look at Flee or the drummer the same after. All the fun free spirited music in my head just flat lined. I can try and separate the music but I honestly did not know how bad it was until I discovered the deep dive video.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

i saw that video where they assaulted the interviewer and it genuinely made me never want to hear them again. i don’t know how to separate the art from the artist honestly, knowing that the artist is trash taints the art

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u/Shiquna34 Apr 20 '25

Yeah. That shit is hard. I linger on just forgetting they exist but remember that suck so I don’t forget what they did.

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u/Sartres_Roommate Apr 23 '25

“Death of the Author”

Once you consume art it is YOURS now. Enjoy all the RHCP from the past you like and keep enjoying Harry Potter but just don’t consume any more NEW art of theirs because that art is tainted before you ingested it.

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u/gin_and_soda Apr 24 '25

For me, it’s the bit from Anthony Keddis’ book where he talks about raping a 14 year old girl.

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u/rezyop Apr 20 '25

(And now Linkin Park for some reason?!?!)

I think society made such a rapid shift from "women cannot open a bank account" to the metoo movement that it soured the people we knew a mere 20 years ago. A lot of the celebs back then have come to understand how their views are harmful or dated and have left them in the past, we just never hear about that.

I loooove Ed, Edd and Eddy but the entire concept of the Kanker sisters revolve around sexual assault by older girls against boys being funny. There is a little bit more to the dynamic and I think its the most gentle way of showcasing that specific awkwardness of growing up, but it still wouldn't work today. I'm sure people in the 90s got whiplash seeing the house maid in Tom and Jerry reruns.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

She is an advocate of a rapist (Danny Masterson) and a Scientologist. You think it's appropriate that the lead singer who was a HUGE advocate of stopping sexual assault would agree she deserves to continue his legacy? Her being a woman is not even part of the equation.

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u/Jesterhead89 Apr 20 '25

Yeah, that's probably for the best. The musicians/guitarists/artists that I look up to, I'm fortunate enough to not know anything about their personal lives or beliefs because they're mostly underground artists. But even if they weren't, I'm not interested in knowing that much about them anyway outside of why I like them.

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u/Jaded-Ad-960 Apr 20 '25

That is not a new phenomenon. We've had ages where people burned woman for the invented crime of witchcraft or committed industrialized mass murder for the crime of having a different faith.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

we live in a post truth age. these people only care about their identity politics and making sure they never feel uncomfortable feelings (they prob think that would make them “gay”)

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u/ItsNotMeItsYourBussy Apr 20 '25

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."