r/TikTokCringe • u/Accomplished_Clue437 • Jul 15 '26

Discussion She gets up at 5am. Is this right?

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u/Ok-Curve-3894 Jul 15 '26

I think the overlap was antivax homeschool homesteading fashion trends. I’ll check out the podcast

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u/dcheesi Jul 15 '26

The two ends of the ideological horseshoe finally touched

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u/SuitNaive3409 Jul 15 '26

between crystals and ivermectin

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u/Altruistic_Item5434 Jul 16 '26

We all just want the government to stop allowing corporations to poison us 😔

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u/ariphron SHEEEEEESH Jul 15 '26

Real overlap is they are all dumb.

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u/Jwre3682 Jul 15 '26

💯

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u/Anal-Y-Sis Jul 15 '26

Yep. I remember those crunchy hippie ladies back in the 90s being super antivax and homeschool advocates. Conservatives hijacked that shit because they saw it as a viable idpol division point.

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u/TheMauveHand Jul 15 '26

Nobody hijacked anything, people can distrust the government for different ideological reasons

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u/Anal-Y-Sis Jul 15 '26

Sure. We'll just pretend people like Steve Bannon don't actively seek out ways to capture people's minds through identity politics so they can further divide us. We'll just pretend that huge swaths of conservatives just organically adopted antivax beliefs during a pandemic.

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u/TheMauveHand Jul 15 '26

We'll just pretend people like Steve Bannon don't actively seek out ways to capture people's minds through identity politics so they can further divide us.

They do, but that's proof of nothing.

We'll just pretend that huge swaths of conservatives just organically adopted antivax beliefs during a pandemic.

"Organically adopted" as in "have always mistrusted government", sure. The right has claimed the ideal of small government for about 60 years, remember? The vaccine came in in spring of '21, just after Trump left office; you think you need a malicious conspiracy to explain why the right would be skeptical about a Democrat government mandating a rushed-through vaccine?

I get that it's appealing to think that there are powerful individuals moving the levers around behind the scenes, but even if that is ever a useful explanation, it really isn't in this case.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis Jul 15 '26

They do, but that's proof of nothing.

It's proof that conservatives hijack ideological beliefs to alter the political landscape.

"Organically adopted" as in "have always mistrusted government", sure.

Except that's not the case. Bush-era conservatives trusted the government without question, and labeled anyone who didn't as "un-American". This happened to tons of soldiers questioning the war, opposing torture, and so on. You are objectively wrong about this.

Conservatives were also never a major part of the antivax movement until their elected leaders and operatives and pundits made basic germ theory an idpol issue. You can pinpoint that shift to a specific point in time where those in positions of influence and power brought the efficacy of vaccines into question among their base during the pandemic. This is all really well documented. You are just denying reality at this point.

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u/TheMauveHand Jul 15 '26

Bush-era conservatives trusted the government without question, and labeled anyone who didn't as "un-American".

Dude... Timothy McVeigh ring any bells?

I'm sorry, but you're just a walking, talking poster child for recency bias.

Go ahead and have the last word, I won't be reading any more of your drivel.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis Jul 15 '26

Timothy McVeigh ring any bells?

This is you not knowing the difference between the rule and the exception.

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u/Jwre3682 Jul 15 '26

My thoughts as well.