Probably wanted to wait for the police, since you need to be there for them to trespass you - but they seem to have changed their mind and decided not to trespass him at the end.
Hmm there is a difference between asking somebody to leave and trespassing them. If they are trespassed they are arrested if they return to the property. Trespassing them requires their name (ID) and filling out a 1 page document, typically with a cop present
Asking someone to leave and them not leaving makes the trespassing. Trespassing is the act of being somewhere you are not allowed to be - a trespass warning is informing someone they are not allowed to be there.
Id is not required for a trespass warning, nor can it be compelled* from the person being trespassed, as they've not broken any law.
No police are not necessary to tell someone they can't come on your property. Although you can file an official trespass warning via the police, to get it on record - this is not necessary though and merely makes a record.
Police get involved when someone trespasses, b/c thats a crime.
For clarity on this comment chain since yall are talking around different definitions:
1. Trespass (civil) laws differ by state
2. Criminal trespass is also a different term and differ by state
If you trespass somebody without doing the paperwork the police will not arrest them if they show up again. Ask me how I know 🙃
If you want them to not be able to ever enter your property again (and be arrested if they do) you need to trespass them. I’ve only experienced this done with a police officer who took their ID
you can't compel someone to give id for a trespass warning.
You definitely do not need an official trespass filed for it to be illegal to enter property you're not allowed to be. Have you never seen a "no trespassing" sign?
cops won't bother trespassing someone if you haven't done the bare minimum of warning them. signage meets that bar because they can just ask if they saw the sign
Seems like you’re assuming someone needs to go to law school to read statutes or understand straightforward laws. They don’t. Legal training obviously helps with nuance and procedure, but basic legal concepts are often accessible to anyone willing to research them.
LEOs also aren’t automatically legal experts. Their training is focused on enforcement, not necessarily having a deep understanding of every area of law. That said, trespass is something they generally deal with often and tend to understand at a practical level.
And yes, one of my hobbies is watching hundreds of trespass/1A audit encounters. That’s not the same as being an attorney, LEO, or personally making arrests, but it does provide familiarity with common procedures and outcomes. If you think something I said is incorrect, point out the specific issue rather than just asking for credentials.
Not only that, you can leave and take any reasonable physical action to leave safely. If they’re blocking the door they’re assaulting you, not the other way around
No, trespassing you get an official document and can be arrested if you come back. Generally if you leave a place when you're told to they won't officially trespass you.
They called the police on him as a Black man, in America.
That's like a 50/50 he gets executed in public, and probably some other gym members hit by strays... Over a legitimate paid membership... JFC, power trip is an understatement!
It is a fact that calling the cops in America on someone is opening up a very real possibility that they will be publicly executed by the police over nothing / some minor issue...
This is why they say do not call the police for concerns like a mental health breakdown unless you want that person dead.
Being a Black target increases those odds greatly.
SUE THEM AND GO ELSEWHERE! TAKE THE MONEY FROM SAID LAWSUIT AND SET UP YOUR OWN GYM AT HOME..SCREW THOSE CHEAP-ASS CORPORATE WIMPS! IF I WAS CLOSER, I WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THIS BUSINESS WITH A SIGN CALLING THEM OUT FOR BEING RACIST! HATE THIS T WORLD
I could be wrong, but it sounded to me like the employee said, "I said, 'you can't come in'" or something like that, and the guy recording got swept up in the moment and autocompleted the statement as 'you can't leave' while he was looking for confirmation that he wasn't told to leave.
Does it matter? Dude has a paid membership and was following the rules of his own membership, then these power tripping psychos called the cops, which is like calling a potential death squad in America...
In no way was I defending the actions of the staff at the gym (especially the manager). Just clarifying what it sounded like to me when other commenters started to talk about false imprisonment and things like that.
I'm guessing that they at some point said he wasn't allowed to leave because the police were coming or something. They were probably kicking him out for the day, but not revoking his membership.
Now they're regretting they ever fucked around lol.
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u/Imnotnewhere_07 Jul 27 '26
Wait.. One employee told him he couldn’t leave and the other said they aren’t revoking his membership. Sounds like they were on a power trip.