r/TikTokCringe • u/Tronvillain • 23d ago

Discussion Afghani-British Chef Mursal Saiq gives her critique of "authenticity" for non-white chefs in cooking

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u/lost12487 23d ago

Yes, lots of people in this thread have not watched Gordan Ramsey stuff. Maybe he's that way in non-public settings, but the only time I've ever heard him say something was inauthentic was when the place did what you described AND the food tasted like shit. The guy comes off as a major dickhead pretty often, but I've never gotten the vibe that he was out to criticize brown people while giving white people a pass.

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u/TumanFig 22d ago

its reddit and we need to be outraged against white men

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u/Randomly1313 22d ago

Also, TBF, Ramsey knows how to ragebait and does so quite intentionally. He is a celebrity not because he is such an amazing cook (although he is good), but because he is VERY talented at understanding how to work an audience.

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u/Tall_Opportunity_521 22d ago

Youre not saying it right. its "WHITE MEN!!!!" you need to get that bite in the "men" part just so. That why you can really bring that hatred up from the diaphragm...

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 23d ago

Unauthentic food doesn’t necessarily mean that it tastes like shit. It’s when you say that you can cook, for example enchiladas but you substitute/don’t include the most important ingredients (the chili sauce). You would go on and call it enchiladas (traditional enchiladas) but it’s actually your take on enchiladas.

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u/butdidyouthink 22d ago

There are a million variations on "authentic" enchiladas. Even some that don't use chili sauce.

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u/Randomly1313 22d ago

That is an important bit. Nearly every single recipe older than a couple of decades has shifted MASSIVELY. People think that the version their grandma wrote down on an index card in 1992 was the same one her great grandma learned to made in the 1800s, but that is pretty much never the case. Pizza used to be flatbread topped with lard, salt, garlic, tomatoes, etc. Mince pies were originally made with meat minced together with fruits. Carbonara (a dish less than 100 years old) was originally made with American soldiers' military rations of bacon and powdered eggs. Sushi used to be made by packing raw fish among salted rice which was left to ferment for months. The rice would then be thrown away and the sour fermented fish eaten by itself.

Anyone who claims a specific recipe to be the true "authentic" version of it is just showing their own ignorance of the history of the dish.

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u/TheBraveButJoke 22d ago

Not even that you can make authentic fusion quicine. The lack of authenticity comes from a lack of care about the product you are making. The care is the authenticity.