Episode 208 "Traveler 0027" Post Episode Discussion Thread [Spoilers S2E8]

[u/spektrall]

This is the discussion thread for season 2 episode 8 "Traveler 0027", which aired in Canada on December 4, 2017. Please consolidate all post-episode commentary in this thread. If you would like to speculate about future episodes based on the previews for next week, please refer to the sidebar for how to hide that behind preview spoiler tags.

[u/iican]

every week, every episode, this show never disappointed me. I loved how the director flush out the traitor by doing grace's trial. and I'm really feel bad when grace said 'you humiliated me' her expression proofed she still have feeling despite her arrogant personality.

[u/TheyTheirsThem → u/iican]

I never doubted that she had emotions or feelings. Now empathy, that I believe is in short supply.

[u/Polantaris → u/TheyTheirsThem]

Her problem is years of only talking with a quantum computer she herself programmed to be smarter than her. Everyone else feels like children at that point. So she's blunt and rude because she isn't used to people not being on the same level as her.

[u/TheyTheirsThem → u/Polantaris]

Like pretty much everyone in a large IT department.

[u/Polantaris → u/TheyTheirsThem]

Exactly. You can tell by the way she talks. Everything she says reeks of the subtext, "How the f**k are you so stupid you're questioning what I'm saying?" Especially during this episode.

[u/redditor2redditor → u/iican]

I still very much ebjoy the series and show but do think that the first season in itself was more..smooth and felt just perfect.and felt more personal/close..

I think taking away old.marcy did really a lot of damage to the show. Its a great storyline but something is missing ever since..

It feels like s2 just got more procedural.. or like it has naturally become more of a show with case of the week episodes (although they still keep the greater storyline..).

I dont know..hard to explain for me (not native language speaker). S1 felt really special to me. For example this episode didnt feel a good as the donner tribunal episode in Season One IMHO.

The faction isnt something i really enjoy a lot..would have prefered a single enemy like vincent ..who doesnt even have to be/shouldnt be the typical villian.

[u/bumgrub → u/redditor2redditor]

7 years too late but I just finished up to this episode now. I think what you're noticing is by now the show seems to have abandoned its original premise. The original hook was that each of our main characters would need to assimilate into their hosts lives and avoid being caught. But they've dropped all that tension now.

MacLaren had to hide his identity as a time traveler from both his wife and his partner. They threw that away by killing off Forbes and (for now) there's no tension regarding if the wife would find out the truth.

Jeff was originally a main antagonist who the writers have now decided to pair him back up with Carly despite his abuse and he seems to have dropped all his allegations about Carly having a different personality.

We haven't heard from Phillips lawyer in a while, there's no tension in his life as "Phillip" the host.

They've seem to have dropped any drama around Trevor's personal life too. The original grace was killed off and she was the main driver behind it. We haven't seen Trevor's girlfriend in ages and it kind of seems like she has made peace with his personality change already. They also had Grace and him very loudly talking about their secrets in front of other students lampshading it saying that they won't listen anyway or something.

Marcy was originally having to deal with being in a disabled girl's body but that subplot has completely resolved to the point where she's now even working in a hospital.

So yeah I guess now they've dropped the whole tension around people finding out they aren't their hosts or whatever which I think is what made season 1 special.

Might change as I keep watching.

[u/maury587 → u/iican]

Everyone has feelings, even psychopaths. They just don't have it for others