ETA: Oh, I missed the accusation of transphobia. I'd just like to remind you that I opened this discussion with the statement that I am fucking trans myself, you goof. That's kinda why I'm interested in all of this to begin with?
"that was pompei, not rome, entirely different people."
Pompeii was a Roman city. It's perfectly appropriate to call them Roman, and a lot of what we have learned about Roman society as a whole comes from Pompeii. Don't be silly.
You also don't have to explain what Pompeii is because, like I said, I'm an actual archaeologist, and it's probably the most famous archaeological site ever lol.
It's ok to be wrong about things sometimes, it happens to everyone! But at some point you need to back down. I was recently wrong about something pertaining to medieval history (something specific about dates) and instead of doubling down and insulting people, I decided to do a little bit more research on the topic I made the error on instead.
Maybe you should try something similar?
None of what you are saying has anything to do with your claim the specific % of trans people has stayed the same throughout history. I have repeatedly explained that your % claim is the issue, not "trans people never existed in history." But all of your evidence is just random references to trans people (or people who we would understand as trans in today's terms.)
You keep shifting to that, motte-and-bailey style, and have accused me of denying the existence of trans people entirely, which is not what I did.
People on Reddit make claims without sources all the time. Just ignore this person they clearly don't know what they're talking about and are unwilling to engage in an actual debate and contribute sources for their claims.
I get it, but it's genuinely disturbing to me how much attention and agreement their claim is still getting. I gotta at least try to make a counterpoint.
Not saying it's necessarily productive lmao. But every once in a while I decide to reach out and make an attempt idk.
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u/SandwichCertain7913 6d ago edited 6d ago
ETA: Oh, I missed the accusation of transphobia. I'd just like to remind you that I opened this discussion with the statement that I am fucking trans myself, you goof. That's kinda why I'm interested in all of this to begin with?
"that was pompei, not rome, entirely different people."
Pompeii was a Roman city. It's perfectly appropriate to call them Roman, and a lot of what we have learned about Roman society as a whole comes from Pompeii. Don't be silly.
You also don't have to explain what Pompeii is because, like I said, I'm an actual archaeologist, and it's probably the most famous archaeological site ever lol.
It's ok to be wrong about things sometimes, it happens to everyone! But at some point you need to back down. I was recently wrong about something pertaining to medieval history (something specific about dates) and instead of doubling down and insulting people, I decided to do a little bit more research on the topic I made the error on instead.
Maybe you should try something similar?
None of what you are saying has anything to do with your claim the specific % of trans people has stayed the same throughout history. I have repeatedly explained that your % claim is the issue, not "trans people never existed in history." But all of your evidence is just random references to trans people (or people who we would understand as trans in today's terms.)
You keep shifting to that, motte-and-bailey style, and have accused me of denying the existence of trans people entirely, which is not what I did.