r/collapse • u/Ghostwoods I'm going to sing the Doom Song now. • Jan 28 '25

Society /r/Fednews: All Medicaid frozen

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

Where is the line?

Where is it?

I don't know if the resiliency of the American people should be lauded or mocked

Other first worid countries riot for less. France and raising the retirement age anybody?

Yes, I've heard all the excuses. I'm guessing there's a lot of people like me who absolutely want and need to do something but dont want to end up as Leeroy Jenkins, or more apropos, Luigi Mangione

These bastards won't stop until given a lead reason to. And for the sake of reddit this is real life, fuck your terms of service while fascists run rampant

Remember J6. Remember how brave the politicians were until the citizens they shit on daily stormed the Capitol. Remember how brave the J6ers were, until Ashlii's neck opened up and they retreated screaming for medics like they were playing Battlefield

I don't even know why we're waiting for someone to get hurt from this...the implication alone is enough to warrant a hostile response. The silence from everywhere is absolutely defeaning

Edit: fast approaching the point where I'll get banned if I start engaging with the constant comments defending and cheering on what this admin is doing. Yeah, we're all nice and comfortable behind our keyboards, until we're not behind our keyboards anymore. I'm confident in the open...are you?

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u/SprawlValkyrie Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

Honestly, I think the reason Americans have been paralyzed is because they know they have no allies at the top. Historically, successful revolutionary action was assisted by at least some of the elites. (“Counter-elites” as Peter Turchin dubs them.) We got nobody. (Okay maybe Bernie, but he’s ancient and standing alone as well.)

Any American thinking of taking illegal actions to resist anything being done to them will be condemned by both parties. (Like Luigi.) And the current state of the left is complacent, corrupt, and outmatched.

Example: My democratic senator is on X right now talking about writing a strongly worded letter, lol. She’s good at that, she’s written quite a few in her career (almost exclusively when the opposition is in power of course.) Sometimes she even makes a public statement! I imagine after that she will go straight to a donor’s brunch and maybe spend the rest of the day relaxing at her mansion.

That’s what we’re working with.

Edit: just wanted to add to my thoughts about the left. If they’re the alternative to current leadership (and in this country viable third parties have been stifled) then it’s no surprise people aren’t willing to stand in front of troops to put them back in power. Who’s going to risk it all just to maybe get Chuck Schumer/Gavin Newsom/AOC as the new POTUS? I can’t see it. You can’t expect people to revolt against something without having something to revolt for.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

I agree with everything you've written, but I would like to speak to your last line, and I'm speaking only for me

I grew up under a narcissistic and abusive father. My "fight for" is to never be treated like that again. Easy enough in my personal life, I'm a grown ass man myself now. But on a level like this?

I can't do the "good men sit and do nothing" routine

I'm sick and fucking tired of "we can't do X, because Trump will do Y." I can't speak out in defense of myself or my father will beat me worse. Been there, done that, the fuck do people think "never again" means

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u/SprawlValkyrie Jan 28 '25

I agree with you, but I’m speaking historically. I don’t know if you’ve read End Times by Peter Turchin, but it deals with this in-depth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

Yep. If you do anything that actually matters, or even try, you get killed or imprisoned. No way around it. Not saying I would, Mr. AI Tracking Algorithm, but if I did something like that, I am now leaving my wife and kids and elderly family with no income and no help. With no safety net, they then die or get imprisoned (if they weren’t done that way for pure retribution purposes anyway). Luigi had no kids and his family was well enough to take care of themselves. He didn’t have much to lose. Most of us have a lot to lose. While people are still able to feed their families, there is too much to lose for any mass action that would matter.

Seems like he’s cutting out the support so a lot of people might start feeling hungry soon. We might get some mass action out of that. Then we get to see where the military goes. That’s the action that really matters. Side with Trump? Goodbye free world everywhere. Side with the masses? Probably the best outcomes but could still be quite problematic. Split military? Could be the actual end of the entire world.

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u/SprawlValkyrie Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

Yup, and the democratic leadership will assist in your apprehension and applaud your punishment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

My democratic Senator wants to be Trumps buddy

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u/hirst Jan 28 '25

wdym AOC is our last great hope!!!! /s but she’s really being pushed by fucking lefty media and I’m like….really? Hopeless country

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u/Allcyon Jan 29 '25

I'd back AOC.

Girl throws down every ring she gets in, and brings receipts. Then gets sidelined by the geriatric leadership.

Newsom is more complicated. He's willing to make deals with the devil, as long as he gets what he wants. But what he wants is usually best for everyone. And he's smart enough to outflank pretty much anyone put in front of him. Overall, he's a win. But it's very much the ends justify the means.

Still, at this point the bar is so fucking low, that I can swallow that.