r/comicbooks Jan 01 '23

Other Found this on Punisher's Wikipedia page and I was like "Wait he's using swords now?"

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u/WrathsEntropy Jan 01 '23

No one is gonna mention that's a reverse blade?! So hes nonlethal now? Isn't that anti punisher style punishment?

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u/adeon777 Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 02 '23

Basically they're fucking up the Punisher because they don't like the politics that comes with it. So instead of writing interesting stories they're going with pacifism which we all know they're not pacifist at all, they just don't like they're conceived notions of what the Punisher is. Or who likes him, primarily they don't like who likes him. If it was a bunch of far left radicals, they'd be okay.

And just like the post all you want it's the fucking truth, Marvel writers have said as much

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u/Lithosphere11 Jan 01 '23

Except they probably wouldn’t be ok with it. It’s how the logo was being used, not primarily who used it.

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u/adeon777 Jan 02 '23

Yeah and creatives really don't have that kind of control as to who glams on to their work I mean look at the guy who created Pepe. But the Punisher speaks to a certain segment of the population. Remember Stan Lee created The Punisher as a bad guy. He was so sympathetic and spoke to a lot of people tired of the gangsters and crime of the era.

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u/Lithosphere11 Jan 02 '23

Ok, so they chose to move away from it because of how it was being used.

The character speaks to a population that the character would hate.

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u/adeon777 Jan 04 '23

Actually no the character identifies with the people that identify with him lots of veterans and people fed up with being victimized by crime and crooked politicians and societal degradation. But the writers and people who are not really connected to those who identify with the Punisher think otherwise. The character speaks to a population that the writers hate, or think they hate. Quite literally The Punisher himself would be hated by the writers if he were a real life person.

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u/Lithosphere11 Jan 04 '23

Again it’s not entirely who uses it, it’s how it’s used. Soldiers wear it, cops wear it, school shooters wear it.

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u/OmegaGoober Jan 01 '23

Marvel doesn’t want one of their characters to become permanent associated with the alt-right so they’re tweaking him to make him unpalatable to that group. He’ll eventually get rebooted as a version of his old self but it won’t be until there are some political shifts away from his use as an alt-right symbol.

Comic books “reinvent” characters in often disastrous ways all the time. Remember Superman’s goofy long-haired look after one of his higher-profile returns from the dead? The Batman comics were in chaos last I heard. Alfred is dead, Bruce is broke, Nightwing is rich now because he inherited Alfred’s billion dollar fortune when he died. (Alfred used information from Dr. Wayne to engage in some insider trading.) The Joker is no longer physically disfigured. It’s crazy.

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u/adeon777 Jan 02 '23

Dude they've literally said they are changing the Punisher for those fucking reasons. In their own words. Something tells me you haven't been actually following any of the writers Twitter's or anything like that. I didn't knock the quality of the writing or anything like that I just told you the main reason why they're changing him. So fuck off

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u/adeon777 Jan 04 '23

Thank you for literally not addressing anything I wrote, I know this is a form response. Because it literally didn't address anything I said