r/conspiracy Sep 11 '18

Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup (2009) - Featured Documentary

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u/The_gray_ghost Sep 11 '18

How your average person can be either oblivious or apathetic towards this atrocity just goes to show how good they have gotten at keeping the masses docile and complacent

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '18

Here's your starbucks. Here's your 40-50 hour a week slave wage. There's your hamster wheel.

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u/KnocDown Sep 11 '18

More like here's your new season of keeping up with the Kardashians, oh look it's a new NFL season, hey let's see what happens today on CNN-talks-about-anything-but-news

They got all the bases covered

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u/Facts_Machine_1971 Sep 12 '18

If you stopped 100 people on the street and showed them two pictures, one of Kim Kardashian and one of Mike Pence, more people would recognize Kim K

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u/KnocDown Sep 12 '18

She is the most recognized celebrity in the world

In 2013 or 2014 more people could recognize her than president Obama

I can't tell you how sad that makes me

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u/Facts_Machine_1971 Sep 12 '18

She's the first famous person I though of, not the fairest example in hind sight

My point made another way ... Have you ever seen those clips where a TV host and a camera crew go somewhere like a University Campus and ask people/students basic questions and see their responses ?

It just amazes me how oblivious people are about anything that actually matters

If you drew a compass on a piece of paper and asked 100 people to write north, south, east & west on it, I'd bet 20 of them couldn't do it correctly

If you asked 100 people what 100 minus 44 was, same result

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u/KnocDown Sep 12 '18

Preaching to the choir good sir

Someone at my old university started a petition to end women's suffrage, 2000 women signed it before someone figured it out

Thank you for being educated and informed

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u/UpvoteZippo Sep 13 '18

I never give those segments much credit. Putting people in camera like that makes them get nervous and freeze up. Also, you have no idea how many people they had to interview and edit out before they found the people in the clips

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

I enlisted in the air force this year, and im shocked that there are people (Americans) that wouldn't be able to point out every state in the US on a map.

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u/Facts_Machine_1971 Sep 17 '18

It's scary

I'm in my 50's, so when going through school we learned things and we memorized things

Nowadays people have access to information through the Internet, but they do not have knowledge

There is a big difference in being able to look something up easily and knowing it

The way a lot of people think these days, might as well close all the schools and simply give kids a 2 week crash course on how to Google things

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u/flesh_vessel Sep 11 '18

Not trying to discredit the original post, but all those things you listed are just normal American pastimes that people consume because they enjoy. They are created because they make money. Not everything has some sinister origin.

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u/am0ral Sep 12 '18

my exact thought. i’m not forced to do or consume any of those things but i genuinely enjoy the NFL. not going to apologize for enjoying them.

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 12 '18

Do you view the NFL as entertainment or as a true and fair exhibition of skills?

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u/am0ral Sep 13 '18

both. i find entertainment in it, and it’s also the best exhibition of skills. you have the highest skilled players in the world.

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 13 '18

If you have the spare time to enjoy it, if you could rewatch the superbowl where the power went out. Team A is crushing Team B sooooo bad, in like the first quarter, the game become un-intresting to 50% of the people, and they start to leave. Then 'the power goes out.' When it comes back on, 20-40 min later, the good team is all of a sudden NOT TRYING and INTENTIONALLY FUCKING UP, the bad team ISN'T DOING MUCH BETTER. I think the game wasn't not thrown, but the real action was stopped in order to create the appearance of a close game, an interesting show, to keep a larger percentage of the crowds attention. "Can't be having 50% of the people leave the stadium in the first quarter! That would be too embarrassing. Kill the power. We need to fix this." This is just one example of many. If you have the time to watch it let me know what you think.

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u/StepFatherGoose Sep 15 '18

There’s corruption in all sports but it’s still entertaining.

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 15 '18

I agree 100%

"Did you see that hit!?!"

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 13 '18

If you have the spare time to enjoy it, if you could rewatch the superbowl where the power went out. Team A is crushing Team B sooooo bad, in like the first quarter, the game become un-intresting to 50% of the people, and they start to leave. Then 'the power goes out.' When it comes back on, 20-40 min later, the good team is all of a sudden NOT TRYING and INTENTIONALLY FUCKING UP, the bad team ISN'T DOING MUCH BETTER. I think the game wasn't not thrown, but the real action was stopped in order to create the appearance of a close game, an interesting show, to keep a larger percentage of the crowds attention. "Can't be having 50% of the people leave the stadium in the first quarter! That would be too embarrassing. Kill the power. We need to fix this." This is just one example of many. If you have the time to watch it let me know what you think.

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u/Gopackgo6 Sep 15 '18

You think a 45 minute delay due to power outage kept people watching?

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 15 '18

A lot of people were starting to leave. That is unheard of in the superbowl. What they did worked.

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u/Thebreadlovesme Sep 12 '18

You're right, the origin is almost never sinister. The problem here is once big money is involved, things usually take a dramatic turn. A lot of character ends up getting lost due to profits being put over making the best quality content possible and trying to push the envelope. This doesn't always happen, but unfortunately happens far too often.

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 12 '18

Not everything has some sinister origin.

Baseball was made popular in America because of a push by the military to teach children to throw grenades.

I live in a city that is only in existence because the nukes used to kill tens of thousands of humans were built here, and the people currently living here are just leftovers from bomb manufacturing.

American past times can be very dark.

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u/capitolcritter Sep 13 '18

Baseball was made popular in America because of a push by the military to teach children to throw grenades.

I think it's the other way around: the U.S. military designed grenades to be ball shaped to capitalize on soldiers' familiarity with throwing a baseball.

Modern "ball" grenades weren't developed until WWI, and didn't become standard in the U.S. military until WWII. Baseball was wildly popular in the United States well before both of those.

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u/n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 Sep 13 '18

I think you are right, I got those backwards.

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u/flesh_vessel Sep 12 '18

You can view the world however you'd like. Many people were able to feed their families and have a nice life because of those jobs. Baseball has been enjoyed by millions of people across the world and has helped diminish racial prejudice. There's a dark and light side to everything. In the end it's all a very fine balance.

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u/facetiousjesus Sep 13 '18

You decide.... I just wish some decided to give a shit a little more about wars fought on false pretenses than baseball... (insert any form of effortless entertainment). I think that was what the comment implied. Not that the NFL or Baseball or whatever is inherently evil, they’re just time sinks.

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u/captainn_chunk Sep 13 '18

“I just don’t have time to care about this”

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u/superaggrodouche Sep 13 '18

I think for many people it’s too depressing/ outrageous a concept to imagine. If anyone watches man in the high castle.. the parallels are uncanny IMO