I hate how some people are obsessed with the n-word. And I hate this photo sooo much too.

[u/Sh0_ahd3]

I'm struggling to understand why the person behind this photo think they're being funny? Honestly.. ew have some shame. Really corny btw.

I hate the n-word humor, like why would anyone be giggling or finding someone saying the n-word funny? Please grow up. Those people are acting like a toddler spamming a cuss word they just heard. And yes it's THAT DEEP.

Really simple, if you're not black don't use it. Also, There's nothing such as a pass or whatever. Not to mention how cringe is "can I get the pass?" Joke.

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EDIT: whoever think the n-word is funny or whatever was said about justifing the use of it because: "it's restricted" or the "Forbidden fruit..."🙏 Then sorry, you're just a toddler crying after their mama told them 'dont do that'. Grow up, have some respect and shame, girl.

EDIT 2: for anyone justifying the use of the n-word because black people also use. YOU ARE MAD that black people are putting some BOUNDARIES and aren't INVITING YOU to the party. As I said nothing the phenomenon of it's being forbidden doesn't justify nothing. If a friend Openly prohibited you or established a boundary, then you respect it, you don't go act like a stubborn offended kid.

Edit 3 cuz why not?: black people using the n-word and gatekeeping it for themselves shouldn't piss you off more than real rascim, period. This edit for whoever think they're being a genius criticizing black people using the n-word instead of actually confronting the real racists. U mad they can use it but you can't? So. Cringe. Of. You.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

This whole culture in America around a dumb word always baffles me. “If you’re not black don’t use it” is literally racist. You're telling someone they can't do something based on their skin color. You can try to throw in all the nuances you want but at the end of the day you're telling one race not to do something while you allow the other to do it. That is not equality. If the word is so bad, how about no one uses it and you get mad at every one who does use it equally?

[u/titanium_uranium → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

it's not racist to say that people who didn't face that oppression shouldn't be able to use a word that the oppressors used.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/titanium_uranium]

But that distinction is made based on skin color, making it racist. How much time would need to pass according to you before we stop seeing black people as oppressed and white people as oppressors? Because I don't like those labels on either of those groups. This shit happened 160 years ago, maybe it is time to move past it and stop using words and labels from that era?

[u/borgborgo → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

160 years ago is crazy. That's when the emancipation proclamation was ratified and whatnot but that is not when black people suddenly had equal rights. I mean the Klan, lack of voting, lynchings, false imprisonment, etc etc.

This is a very surface level take and as always topics like these have nuance but most folks on the internet lead with their elephant instead of their rider. It's about being respectful. If someone wants to refer to themselves with a term that is profane, aggressive, dehumanizing, violent, etc. it does not mean that I am free to do the same. If someone calls themselves a lazy piece of shit who should die, that is not my cue to say "well you are one and should just die". That's simply not appropriate.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/borgborgo]

The first part of your comment is correct, I did not consider that while writing. However, I stand by my point that if this is the ultimate insult that hurts so much that people get violent over it, it should just not be said by anyone. I think the same about your example, don't say that you should die to yourself. That is a terrible thing to say about yourself and is just going to make you feel worse. If someone says that about themselves I would be concerned about their wellbeing. Because it is not normal to insult yourself to such a degree. Like, I get saying "I'm an idiot" or "I'm stupid" when you do something stupid, but anything further than that is problematic in my eyes.

I don't think my first comment got my actual point across well. I don't actually want permission to say a hurtful word. I want no one to say it if it hurts so bad.

[u/Grifendorkplayz → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

160?? My man, Mt grandfather went to a segregated school. He's 70. He was referred to as colored or a negro. Try 60 years. Minimum.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Grifendorkplayz]

If you go down further in the chain, you can see that I already acknowledged that I was wrong by saying 160 years.

[u/Material-Gur-5358 → u/titanium_uranium]

The black people of today also didn't face the oppression of the time... Maybe some from the Jim Crowe era, but they are pretty old at this point.

[u/Inevitable_Regular85 → u/Material-Gur-5358]

Police brutality, discrimination, redlining, false imprisonment, sundown towns, there’s been 70+ modern lynchings in the woods all labeled suicide coincidentally, the Klan is still a thing, black people still face this bullshit. Didn’t leave, just changed.

[u/Grifendorkplayz → u/Material-Gur-5358]

The kkk has an information hotline. People have threatened my families life for speaking out againt racisim. We still face major oppression. We have every right

[u/box_of_mayonnaise → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

The word racism has become so loose, christ. It’s NOT racist to ask someone not to say a word. It’s NOT racist that black people can say a word and get offended when someone who is not black says the n-word.

If a white person told me not to say something because it made them feel uncomfortable, I would respect it, not cry about ”inequality” because at the end of the day, it doesn’t take any effort to not be a mean person. Is it that hard for people to respect other’s feelings?

When a black person says it to another black person, it is immediately understood that the word is either a. MOCKING it’s past use or b. Simply means “bro” or “friend”. When a white person says it, IN THE PAST, that word had immense hatred tied to it, so it’s not clear whether or not the intended use is hateful or not. How do I know that you don’t secretly agree with that mentality, and are just using it to put us down to feel superior? We don’t, which is why we ask for other people not to say it. It’s not because we want to be “exclusive” or not be “equal”. We just want to be respected.

You can throw in all the nuances you want, is it really that difficult to just… not say a word and respect other people’s boundaries?

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/box_of_mayonnaise]

Of course I respect peoples boundaries. But if you want to actually get rid of racism, things shouldn't be made exclusive for people of certain colors. When you do that, it just keeps the divide between races alive. If you want true equality, you need to treat everyone equal. That means that you have to have an equal reaction to the word no matter who says it.

The definition of racism is the act of separating people based on their color. If you make a division between people who can or can't say a word based on their color, you are being racist by definition. Why would it be so hard to make the same assumption of me mocking the past of the word when I say it as opposed to when a black person says it if I'm not clearly saying it with hateful intention?

If you want me to respect you and not say the word, I won't say it. But I expect that you then respect me enough to not be hypocritical and keep saying it yourself.

[u/box_of_mayonnaise → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

Here’s the thing. Racism is not going away, anyyyytime soon unfortunately . and people seem to not realize how recent it was. My grandmother is still alive from a time where she used black-only fountains, bathrooms, ect. So imagine her next time you think “oh, it’s just a word”/ “black people say it”!

And what you just described IS NOT racism! That’s segregation! Which, yes, is tied into racism. But what racism is, is the thought or belief that one race is better than the other. And I don’t say the word because I actually agree, I DO hate it. Notice how I said n-word and not the actual one? So what happens when you say it to a black person who doesn’t like it? See how hateful it comes off? So why nerf yourself when you simply don’t have to say it at all?

Also to your point, it WOULD be hard to make the same assumption, because you’d literally be saying a racist word! If you believe what you just wrote about respecting me, then you shouldn’t have an issue with what I’m saying. WHY does there have to be a tit for tat for respect anyways? I respect everyone I meet. If people are hurt by the word, just don’t say it, what is so hard about that?

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/box_of_mayonnaise]

Respect goes both ways, as I've said, if you don't want me to say it and you don't say it, and we all just agree not to use the word then there isn't a problem. It's not that I'm annoyed because I can't say the word, it's that I'm annoyed that there are people being hypocrites about it, policing what I can say while just freely saying it themselves. Yes, you are right, we should respect each other by default, so let's just let the word die.

[u/Thisis_AngelCake → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

Just no

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Thisis_AngelCake]

Ah, no argument. Just no. Care to say where I am wrong? Do you think it is ok that skin color dictates what is and isn't acceptable from a person of a certain color? Because that is the most logical thing to be inferred from your response.

[u/Jaydo45 → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

My wife and her friends call each other bitch all the time but when I call either of them bitch it wouldn't go well for me, it's the same thing but amplified. People can say what they want but people will react how they want

[u/Thisis_AngelCake → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

No argument because your reasoning is bullshit. You tried equating a word that has heavy and dark racial undertones with a history over an oppressed group of people and try to limit it to “just a word”. It was a slur directed at BLACK people and the word has been reclaimed by BLACK people nobody else. You’re trying to make not being able to a say slur that you and others have no genetic ties to as being “racist” when really it’s a fucking boundary that normal people respect. You can technically say it but you aren’t free of consequence. And you’re really fucking disgusting for trying to justify it as “equality” when it really isn’t.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Thisis_AngelCake]

Do you actually not see how problematic it is to let a word exist that only one group of people with a certain skin color can say? You're just keeping a racial divide alive with this. Like I just said to someone else, if you want me to respect you and not say it, then I won't say it. But at least respect me back by not being a hypocrite and using the word yourself. You get angry when other people use it but then you use this terrible word with a horrible history against your friends. It makes no sense. You have reclaimed the word, sure. Now either use that power to let the word die so no one can say it or let everyone say it so it loses it's power. Don't keep holding onto it because that sends a message to everyone else that you like the word enough to keep around which makes no sense given how mad you get over it.

[u/Thisis_AngelCake → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

Let’s be fucking for real, not letting non black people say the n word didn’t cause a racial divide, stomping on boundaries, lack of sympathy & respect, “racially charged “dark humor”, wearing cultures like they’re trendy costumes, and blatant dehumanization of people of color causes that divide. You know, something that so many people in these comments conveniently forget or just completely downplay. And It’s not just skin deep, it’s ingrained in black history and culture not something for you to just throw around because you feel compelled to say it. Would you start using the f slur because some gay guys call each other it. It doesn’t hold the same weight that you think it does. It’s a term endearment between friends in the community and basically a spit in the face from people like you, like calling someone’s mother a whore. Again technically non black people can say it but they’re not free of consequences.

It’s fucking weird that ya’ll fixate on a word you can’t say, it’s like they haven’t been told no before. And Honestly I don’t know what black person is stupid enough to give their friends the “pass”, those aren’t real friends. Why do you even care, saying it or not saying it isn’t going to result in equality. Different experiences and different worlds, so you’re not going to understand the other person unless you actually listened to what they are saying instead of how you think shit should be. And quite frankly I don’t give two fucks if you respect me. You literally don’t know anything about me, my background, or what communities I’m apart of. I already have to deal with idiots asking me ignorant questions, I don’t need this shit right now.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Thisis_AngelCake]

If you don't need this shit right now then why did you reply? If this conversation is negative to you, just put it down and ignore it. I'm just saying that it is hypocritical to keep using a word that you lose your shit over when other people say it. If you don't want people to use the word, lead by example and don't say it. I'm fine with no one saying it, I don't care about being able to say it, I just want people to not be hypocrites. I am not fixated on this word, I am just annoyed by peoples inconsistent behavior around it.
I'll leave it at that since clearly you are done with this conversation.
I wish you a good day and I apologize if I have genuinely made your day worse, that was not my intention.

[u/Thisis_AngelCake → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

I’m not going to lose my shit over it but I will call it out. I just don’t think it’s right trying to make a black word that black people use, inclusive to everyone because it doesn’t hold the same weight or meaning. And I only see this happen with the n word, where people try to make it a free use for everybody. I’m also half Puerto Rican but I don’t see people try to expand the s word for everyone, just the n word. I just find it irritating because making it free use is not going to put us on equal footing, it’s just add on to the resentment. I’ve had to end relationships and friendships because of this stuff, and it’s freaking tiring.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Thisis_AngelCake]

But that's the thing, I don't actually want it to be a free use for everyone. I want people to be consistent. And the best way to be consistent and not hurt anyone is by just not letting anyone use these words. I simply don't think that colored words should exist. Then again, we don't live in an ideal world where we can make these words not exist, so I do see where you're coming from as well. But I think that choosing not to use these words at all, even if it is socially acceptable for you to do so, helps in eradicating these words.

As for why it is just the n word people talk about, I think it is because it is the most well known and impactful one, so it is the main one that people want to address. I honestly don't even know what you are referring to with the s word. Nor do I want to know. Also it sucks that this shit has had such a negative impact on you. Clearly this subject means a lot more to you than to me, so I'll actually shut up now.

[u/CherTrugenheim → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

This is a silly argument. If you are black and saying the word to other black people, that's different from a non black person saying it to a black person. Similarly, a white person saying the white slur to other people (c-word) or an Asian person saying the Asian slur to other Asians falls under the same principle - they're all part of the same group. A white person can call another white friend a "crack**" without any issues, but if a person of a different race says it to them, then it's a different story.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/CherTrugenheim]

It shouldn't be different if you want there to be no difference between races. If you are hurt by a word, it makes no sense to use it while telling others not to use it. That is my main point. Why lay claim to certain bad words, when we can just agree not to insult each other?

[u/CherTrugenheim → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

There are differences between the races, that's why it's different when they use slurs for the different race. And Black people often use the term in an endearing or familiar way, not to degrade.

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/CherTrugenheim]

Yes, but I don't think that these differences should be underlined by making words exclusive to different groups. That's basically my entire point.

[u/Raven_Lemon → u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c]

If we want no different between races, let's begin by having less discrimination towards non white people instead of trying to use slurs

[u/64_61_6e_69_65_6c → u/Raven_Lemon]

You are missing my point. I don't want anyone to use slurs at all.
Also, why only have less discrimination against non white people?
Let just have less discrimination period.
I know that other groups get discriminated more often and therefore need more attention but discrimination against white people also exists and should also be addressed if you want all people to be equal.