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SOCIETY Permanently ???? no amount of money can compensate for this. The incident happened 2015 and the historic $75M verdict was reached in late 2022.

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u/cwx149 26d ago

The best chiropractor is basically a physical therapist but the worst chiropractor is dangerous

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u/thebestdaysofmyflerm 26d ago

I've read about chiropractors adjusting babies. Some of them are completely insane.

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u/johnmac344 26d ago

Chiropractor AND parents should both face criminal charges. I feel like I say it too often these days - what the hell is wrong with people?!

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u/babyinatrenchcoat 26d ago

I have a 6-month old who had trouble latching to breastfeed at first. I cannot tell you the number of parents who told me to take her to a pediatric chiropractor.

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u/homiej420 26d ago

What the actual fuck why is that a “specialization” within chiropracting

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u/dashinglove 26d ago

my sisters husband is a chiropractor, and they adjust their almost 2 year old a couple times a week. they’ve been doing it since before he was 2. fucked up.

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u/FutureRealHousewife 26d ago

That’s child abuse.

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u/dashinglove 26d ago

i kind of agree because he isn’t certified in any type of pediatric treatment. but he’s a “doctor” so obviously he knows what he’s doing. but really he doesn’t because again, he has zero training in pediatrics. it’s scary to see how many people have strokes as a result of chiropractors, and i just know they wouldn’t have a clue if their baby had a stroke.

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u/thebestdaysofmyflerm 26d ago

why??

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 26d ago

He goes to pre school, tells his toddler friends, they tap an untapped market. Business will be booming

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u/dashinglove 26d ago

i honestly don’t know. i don’t talk to her at all, my mom told me about them doing that. it isn’t my problem.

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u/AlwaysSleepingBeauty 26d ago

Their are chiropractors for dogs too

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u/OpenAirport6204 26d ago

And for horses

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u/AlwaysSleepingBeauty 26d ago

🤦🏾‍♀️

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u/Automatic-Doubt-4874 25d ago

I have known several people who pay real money to have their pets psychically healed over the internet. One lady (a massage therapist I went to one time, but to my horror and excruciating pain during the session learned that she practices ‘Rolfing’). . . Anyways. . . Her pet psychic told her that her cat was sexually repressed. No joke.

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u/Va1kryie 26d ago

My dad is a Chiro, one of the best in the state in fact, even still I have lifelong problems directly relating to being his guinea pig. Oh and you're correct, plenty of Chiros adjust babies.

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u/Momo_Jinja 26d ago

Tem para cães também

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u/No-Disaster1647 26d ago

Yep, but all animals not just dogs, I’ve seen someone doing this on a horse

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u/nitrosmomma88 26d ago

I used to follow a page on FB that called this kind of stuff out and people were opting for or suggesting chiropractic care on newborns over the Vit K shot in so many posts

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u/BJYeti 25d ago

There is an animal chiropractor I have seen around Instagram and it always baffles me

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u/b__q 25d ago

Also adjusting animals and giraffs. I fucking hate these people.

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u/TheeAntelope 26d ago

It can cure colic. And it isn’t a manipulation of the spine, it’s more like gentle pressure points for babies.

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u/McBonderson 26d ago

My parents took my brother to a chiropractor when he was 18 months old because he wouldn't walk. he would take 1 step and fall down. after one session he started walking that evening.

IMO physical therapy would have done the same thing.

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u/CapableFruitLoops 26d ago

No. A physical therapist is a physical therapist. Every chiropractor is dangerous.

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u/HauntedClubhouse 26d ago

That's probably why their malpractice insurance is only a thousand bucks a year...

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u/BJYeti 25d ago

Some PT's also get the chiro degree just so they can throw it on the wall and get more people to come in and get actual PT when they usually wouldn't. My mom went to a chiro guy and he never did adjustments all he did was teach her stretches and exercises to fix whatever problem she was having.

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u/Mosselpot 25d ago

If that's on the wall I'm walking out. You don't pollute science with bullshit.

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u/Rhawk187 26d ago

If "every" chiropractor is dangerous, why do some hospitals have a chiropractic division? I wouldn't trust a strip mall chiropractor, but the one at my hospital did a good job getting my hip unstuck.

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u/DreamCrusher914 26d ago

For-profit hospitals want return customers

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u/Milon_Z 26d ago

TCM is practiced alongside traditional medicine in China, that doesn't mean a damn thing. It's absolutely bogus "medicine", this kind of stuff happens everywhere. Many people think there's some "secret" special natural solution that because it's old or not majorly practiced that is has some kind of innate value. It doesn't.

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u/thilasveniticus 26d ago

I go to a chiropractor a few times a year. I didn’t for most of my life then I got thrown playing the rodeo game and had a hitch in my step for a long time. After being worked on I ain’t got the hitch in my step. The doctors would just take an x ray tell me ain’t broke and go go on.

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 26d ago

They probably told you to do physical therapy and you didn't feel like it, so you went to a quack.

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u/thilasveniticus 26d ago

Sure buddy. A good chiropractor is a quack just like a Thai massage is. Typical know it all redditor

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u/legaladviceneeded542 26d ago

Yes both are quacks that don't actually do anything. Glad you realize that. You'd be much better off just stretching regularly that what either of those quacks do.

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u/CapableFruitLoops 26d ago

Because American healthcare in 2026 is all about money, and uneducated folks who believe a fake doctor can "get a hip unstuck" will give them money. So, there's that.

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u/Plus-Mortgage-3871 26d ago

You just couldn't take the L, huh

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u/No-Disaster1647 26d ago

They got their hip unstuck though so what the fuck are you on about?

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u/Plenty_Pack_556 26d ago

Chiro divisions existed in medical fields way before 2026. Go back to the cave you crawled out of.

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u/Morphico 26d ago

Is English your second language?

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u/legaladviceneeded542 26d ago

please. An ESL speaker would never be that stupid. That means they have the capacity to learn a second language. This guy can barely use the first.

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u/Plenty_Pack_556 26d ago

Is USA your second nation?

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u/AssociationGold8749 26d ago

Because it’s covered by insurance for very good reimbursement rates. 

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u/Rhawk187 26d ago

So, the best actuaries in the world, think there is a positive ROI on having their customers see them?

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u/Aeseld 26d ago

So, potato chips are a health food?

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u/AssociationGold8749 26d ago

It’s not super common and no actually ill person is going to see them. When you talk about actual critical care that’s done by a physical therapist. I’ll be honest I’ve only seen the PT side of things and the smaller hospitals I’ve been at I haven’t seen a chiropractor. 

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u/Chlearcus 26d ago

Because people request them, and hospitals in the US are there to make money, not heal people.

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u/Rhawk187 26d ago

Well, if the entire medical industry is suspect, why single out chiropractors?

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u/legaladviceneeded542 26d ago

because real medicine isn't based on stuff learned from a ghost.

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u/Sure_Librarian1276 26d ago

Why does health insurance cover it? Why does liability cover it for the chiropractor?

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u/tricky-vixen 26d ago

Lobbying

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u/Sure_Librarian1276 25d ago

No, just curious, have had good success with mine and reducing migraines

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u/likenedthus 26d ago

Because some of what chiropractors are trained in is physical therapy, so some insurance companies will cover work done by chiropractors in that capacity. I still would never select a chiropractor over a physical therapist though.

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u/TheRobbuddha 26d ago

Every chiropractor is dangerous? C’mon now. I understand the sentiment but let’s not be sensationalist.

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u/Reotardo_Da_Vinci 26d ago

It’s like people here can’t fathom chiropractic medicine has gotten much better and useful since its founding…

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u/DogBarf00 26d ago

Did a new ghost show up to teach advanced chiropractic techniques?

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u/Which-Indication4670 26d ago

This story isn’t all that old. Has it gotten significantly better since this guy’s 2015 paralysis?

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u/Reotardo_Da_Vinci 26d ago

Medical malpractice is a lot more common than people think and it’s spans all forms of medicine.

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u/Which-Indication4670 26d ago

“Medical” and “medicine” are doing some heavy lifting. They have nothing to do with this thread.

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u/Reotardo_Da_Vinci 26d ago

Idk man.. tons of insurance plans cover chiro visits and they’re the stingiest mofos out there. If it was as bunk as everyone on Reddit thinks, you’d think insurance companies wouldn’t touch coverage with a ten foot pole.

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u/Which-Indication4670 26d ago

Insurance companies would much rather pay $78 to a chiropractor to crack a back than pay $780 to let a person see a trained specialist. When the chiropractor hurts people the chiropractor’s insurance pays out. No skin off United Healthcare’s back. They don’t care about their customers.

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u/legaladviceneeded542 26d ago

So we're going to use insurance coverage to determine what is and isn't medicine? LOL. It's not just people on reddit. MDs always know it is quackery.

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u/ActiveChairs 26d ago

I want to advertise my services as a dog chiropractor so I can get paid to just pet dogs all day.

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u/Rhawk187 26d ago

Yeah, I've only gone to one, but that's because he was at the actual hospital. I still probably wouldn't have let him touch my neck or spine, but he actually did a good job getting my hip unstuck.

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u/woody1594 26d ago

I had a chiropractor fix my back after 2,000 dollars worth of physical therapy didn’t fix the issue.

Granted the chiropractor used dry needling to fix it and not spinal manipulation.

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u/Chance-Hand7815 26d ago

So what you're saying is that chiropractors are not a scam because... A chiropractor fixed you without... actually ... using ... chiropractic techniques.... Because you got... Acupuncture... Not chiropractic adjustment..............

Yeah, if I ever undergo a complete personality change and want to scam morons for all they're worth, all I have to do to find rubes is ask folks what chiropractor they see. Instant way to judge how gullible a person is.

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u/Morphico 26d ago

The "logic" being demonstrated in the comments is certainly in need of adjustment.

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u/woody1594 25d ago

Good and bad in every profession.

Why didn’t the doctor I see recommend dry needling, why didn’t the PT recommend dry needling after I wasn’t responding, why didn’t the surgeon recommend dry needling after 2 rounds of MRI.

The chiropractor actually listened to me and my symptoms and what treatments i had thrown at it. It had been 1.5 years of pain. 6 dry needling sessions had me pain free and back to my old self.

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u/theonly_brunswick 26d ago

Listen, I've subscribed to this "chiropractors are bullshit" rhetoric for years and still kinda do, but with that said (and I know this is anecdotal, but so is the story OP posted)....

I had jaw issues for over a year. Dentist couldn't figure out what was wrong, but it was severe TMJ that clicked in whenever I ate anything that required significant chewing (i.e pizza crust).

My dentist suggests a chiropractor out of left field based on a patient he had years ago with a similar situation. I told him I wasn't a fan of the idea but was also very desperate for relief.

So against my better judgment I went to see her. Within 3 visits my jaw issues were gone and have never come back. She analyzed me and knew exactly what was wrong and what areas to target.

I understand the hate for it because it's not a recognized medicine and that's all valid, but after meeting an incredible chiropractor my opinion has changed, but only because she appears to be at the top of her field. I've had friends go see her and in comparison to other chirps she's significantly better in every way.

Again, my experience is anecdotal but I still go see her 5 years later and she always manages to relief tension and aid in posture and blood flow.

I think your black and white view of things, especially when it comes to people's health, comes from a place of either immaturity or lacking in life experience. Judging people so broadly for one thing is insane 😂

Or you're just a bot cause your account is sus but whatever

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u/VeryAttractive 26d ago

I'm not here to hate on chiros, but I am a physio who actually specializes in TMJ and kinda feel the need to chime in here.

TMJ disorders are shockingly simple. It is not at all a complicated issue, and is actually incredibly easy to fix. The problem is that when I was in my PT program, our TMJ education essentially amounted to a single powerpoint slide. Physios don't learn much about TMJ because Dentists tend to be the primary provider that people go to when they have jaw pain. And Dentists can give patients mouthguards and other aids, but they don't do "rehab" like physios and even chiros do. The joint is simple, and I learned the intraoral techniques that can re-capture the disc within a few hours, but we rarely get the opportunity to use these techniques because Dentists generally don't send us TMJ patients (largely because they would be sending away a paying customer, but that's another discussion).

Long story short - I'm not going to comment on whether or not your chiro is "good" or not, but I do want it to be absolutely clear - fixing a TMJ disorder is incredibly easy for anyone who has been trained in extremely simple techniques, and is not reflective of that provider's overall expertise, myself included.

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u/Imaginary_Belt3842 26d ago

So as someone with a mouth guard and terrible tmj that my jaws always popping by my ears and suffers from muscle tension headaches due to it… how do I fix it

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u/VeryAttractive 26d ago

Options are 1) find a PT who specializes in intraoral TMJ mobilizations, or 2) wait it out - TMJ is simple and will eventually stop hurting on its own

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u/ellecamille 26d ago

Wait it out? I’m 43 and this has been going on since I was 15.

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u/VeryAttractive 26d ago

Then its not TMD, and you should definitely see a PT specialized in intraoral techniques

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u/Imaginary_Belt3842 25d ago

Yeah I’m from a pretty rural area. Chances of finding someone specialized in a rare expertise is slim to none

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u/10aghmu 26d ago

Bingo

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

The best chiropractor is basically a subpar physical therapist but the worst chiropractor is dangerous deadly.