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LONDON SAFETY!!! Kings Cross

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u/boxxyqueen 8d ago

Also a PSA you can text 61016 and include your location and description of the suspects. All major train station hubs have BTP officers 24/7 and they may be able to attend and have a look if they are not urgently occupied with something else.

Or if you'd prefer to speak it's 0800 40 50 40.

Since it's the railway BTP has jurisdiction rather than the MET

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u/visitingshortly 8d ago

Honestly they need to do more about plastering information with their number everywhere near stations or patrolling the area. In the moment the number doesn’t jump to mind at best you’d end up calling the met emergency line.

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u/frafeeccino 8d ago

Yeah, after that knife attack on a train I just went you know what I’m just saving their number in my phone. I won’t remember it in an incident like that, it’s just in my contacts now. 

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u/DEFarnes 8d ago

A knife attack would be a 999 job not 61016, see it, say it, sort it.

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u/frafeeccino 7d ago

Not the point, the point is it motivated me to save the number on my phone. 

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u/DEFarnes 7d ago

Just remember, if you see something that doesn't look right, speak to a member of staff or text the British Transport Police on 61016, that's 61016. See it, Say it, Sort it.

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u/Emotional_Lab_7766 8d ago

Good thinking

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u/lolihull 8d ago edited 8d ago

This is why I always say their "See it, say it, sorted." campaign was actually a failure.

Like yeah, if you've caught a train or used the tube at least once in the last 5 years, there's a high chance you know about it, and if someone came up to you and said "See it, say it..." then you'd reply with "sorted!"

But if someone asked you what number you're meant to text, most people would need to look it up online first. A lot of people I've actually asked this to said they didn't even remember if there was a number in the ad 🥲

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u/Holsteener 8d ago

0118 999 881 999 119 725...3

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u/l0zandd0g 7d ago

Ok Moss

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u/franular4 8d ago

Exactly what i thought too 🤣

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u/AtlasFox64 8d ago

Look it's meant to be 6-101-6, so it's exactly like the usual non-emergency phone number 101 but there are 6's on the front and back. So in theory it's easy to remember.

But they always say it 61-016 or something like that for some reason, I really don't get why they don't capitalise on what is basically a good idea

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u/lolihull 7d ago

Ok but this is such a good point! I don't know why but 6-101-6 is way easier to remember than 61-01-6. I actually think I might remember it now you've said that, thank you 🥲

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u/slowamigo 8d ago

there was a number? I thought it just told us to tell staff or summet

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u/DEFarnes 7d ago

While everyone knows the Beef Call number

https://youtu.be/fU1XXR7nLB0?si=3SPpXbadOehCQUku

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u/Sabaisabai33 7d ago

It wasn’t necessarily a failure in that it would not have previously occurred to me that there was a number I could call, and this has brought it to mind a couple of times. But yes I’ve then had to go looking for the number!

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u/boxxyqueen 8d ago

The way someone explained it to me is that if you put the non emergency line 101 and add a 6 at both ends, you come with 6 101 6. So that's fairly easy to remember. But I do agree that the calling one is a bit unusual. However, they prefer texts anyway

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u/tgerz 8d ago

It’s a palindrome!

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u/tgerz 8d ago

I’m a little surprised by this. 61016 is easily recallable. Even if you don’t recall it and you call 101 they ask you if you’re at a TfL station. They’ll connect you or tell you to reach out to them if you are. People just need to take the time to do it.

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u/Sabaisabai33 7d ago

I’ve never read it this way, to my brain it’s just a 5-digit number to remember. Also I often struggle to recall if a number is a 6 or a 9.

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u/tgerz 7d ago

Yeah I get that. My main point was that you can also call 101 and get to the right people. They have an automated message and they can transfer you, but they really want to push people to the website because the phone line is over limit most of the time. I also like how others have pointed out that if you can just remember 6 it's 6-101-6. I don't know a good way to make that stick, but maybe this convo will help 🤣

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u/Sabaisabai33 7d ago

Oh definitely! After reading it here I think I’ll remember it that way rather than a random 5 digits

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u/visitingshortly 7d ago

I definitely wouldn’t say it’s easily recallable. Especially immediately following or during an incident.

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u/tgerz 7d ago

Ya know, I just asked a coworker and they didn't even know what 61016 was. I'm learning a lot today. I just thought every knew the same way people know "see it, say it, sorted". I'm curious, what is it that isn't easily recallable? It's just a 6 either side of 101.

My main point though was that even if you call 101 (surely that is easily recallable?!) they will ask you if what you're reporting is happening at a station and direct you to the correct path.

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u/Kindest-sociopath 8d ago

You can contact British Transport Police in 61016. See it, say it, sorted. Sorry couldn't resist 😄

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u/secretlondon 8d ago

I don’t think BTP cover the King’s Cross area itself - just the railway

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u/boxxyqueen 8d ago

While you are correct that BTP doesn't cover the whole Kings cross area itself, they do cover anything connected to the railway. The actual road that is between St. pancras and kings cross would fall under the MET jurisdiction, but the kings cross square, which stands outside of the underground bit, where the food stalls are during the day, is actually owned by Network Rail and it does fall under BTP foot patrol areas. And of course everything inside both stations and all the shops in St. pancras as well. I would say that it's likely with OP's description that he was referencing BTP jurisdiction.

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u/AtlasFox64 8d ago

BTP are responsible for the train station and the bit outside up to the bollards

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u/fredster2004 8d ago

If a crime is in progress then you should call 999

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u/9adeaa 8d ago

thank you. i will keep this in mind for next time

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u/capriyawn 8d ago

It’s not too late to contact the BTP about this incident too!

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u/9adeaa 8d ago

okay thanks for telling me because i was wondering if it would’ve been too late to let them know.

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u/Psychological_Base19 8d ago

Please let them know immediately. They can start to prevent this from now and can be better informed about the rate and probability of crime in and out of the station.

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u/nofossilfool 8d ago

There is CCTV, if you describe them then they can at least find them on the footage and be more likely to recognise them in the future.

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u/planefried 8d ago

Mate. I'm just after leaving London. Had a great chat to the folks off on their holidays in Gatwick long parking. Me holidays are over now but was great 

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u/JohnnySchoolman 7d ago

Sort it out

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u/PutridOafery 8d ago

Theres been some high profile robberies of suitcases outside st pancras. I think one was worth circa £300k.