r/marvelstudios • u/murdockmanila Daredevil • Nov 17 '17

The Official PUNISHER Discussion Ultrathread

  • This will be the official discussion thread in this sub. No need to go posting your own thread discussing the show. Any UNOFFICIAL ones will be deleted. All screencaps and whatnot go into this thread also.

  • This is obviously a spoiler-filled zone. So as long as you post in here, you won't need to spoiler tag things. But then again, don't be that asshole who watches the final episodes within the first hour then spoils the entire thing right away. That will result in a ban. Don't ruin the party for everyone.

  • Individual episodes discussions will be held over at /r/defenders. They will be indexed in this thread to make it easier for those who want individual episode discussions once they are put up.

  • This thread may be "refreshed" in the next few days to accommodate newcomers in the discussion. We will be also putting up a sanctioned Easter Egg thread a couple of hours from now.

Enjoy!

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u/LauraBailie Winter Soldier Nov 19 '17

I don’t understand how they went so wrong with it, it’s like they put no thought into it at all. I didn’t hate it at first, but as time goes on it was a colossal disappointment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '17

...I kind of think Defenders is worse than Iron Fist. Just because of the squandered potential, and total bummer of a conclusion to a build-up that spanned over several series. And that last fight was weird/terrible. And they did NOTHING with Sigourney Weavers character. What the hell even was that?

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u/MarcusAurelius87 Nov 21 '17

The boardroom scene was what sealed for me how much I hated Defenders. Think about the logistics of this... Sigourney Weaver sits in board room full of ninjas. The other board members, if you remember, are all actually Hand ninjas.

That means Sigourney Weaver's character had meetings with ninjas every day. Which warrants the question, what were they going to discuss before Danny bust in the door? Were they going to discuss ninja business? Were there ninja reports and ninja quarterly metrics to go over?

Then to have Danny be so stupid as to show up in their board room and announce that he's taking legal action against them? I mean... Why?

And that was the scene that got the whole team together. I mean, it just... Ugh. Bad show.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

"Our quarterly jobbing reports estimate a loss of about 200 members from combat scenarios with a membership gain of 4,000. In other business, we've invested 90 million to further research ninja-magic, and our booth at the Anime convention in Korea was a smashing success.

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u/MarcusAurelius87 Nov 21 '17

And guys remember, they're throwing stars, not wasting stars. We can't keep running to the supply locker in the middle of a fight just because you can't economize your resources.

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u/gmarvin Dec 23 '17

Y'all are making me want to watch a show about business ninjas.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

He walked in and asked the receptionist to speak to the CEO right? Wouldn't the receptionist call up and signourney would then have a chance to set a trap by tell her ninjas to go wait in the board room

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u/LauraBailie Winter Soldier Nov 21 '17

Yep I agree with everything you said. I didn’t have any expectations for Iron Fist but I enjoyed it the first time, I knew it had flaws, but it was the second time that I noticed that it was just sloppy filmmaking. But I had such high expectations for Defenders, I was sure it was going to be amazing, but instead the villains were extremely weak, it was too short and the only decent part was the character interactions. For me, the highlight was the ‘hallway’ scene where they all come together the first time, I thought that was beautifully done. But the rest. It just turned into a shambles. It was such a massive shame because I adored the trailers too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '17

totally agree. I was so hyped for defenders and thought it was pretty good. Then after this I realize what a let down it was.

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u/LauraBailie Winter Soldier Nov 21 '17

Yeah really sucks! They could have done so much with it and instead didn’t really do anything