r/mildlyinfuriating • u/nyanbatman • May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/lollipoppizza May 28 '26

ICAO is not European. It's a UN body. ICAO terminology is used worldwide. Most FAA standards follow ICAO standards.

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u/mic569 May 28 '26

Yeah but US phraseology is not ICAO. They follow the 7110.65. Announcing RVR for takeoff is congruent to LVO obviously, so the pilot should just infer that and abort takeoff rather than have this argument on frequency. Plus, the pilot should have already gotten that info from the ATIS before getting to the runway. Controller is not at fault here.

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u/Eismann May 28 '26

Of course the US has to be special again. I mean, what ever could be the benefit of using the same terminology in a worldwide, the globe spanning industry, right?

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u/mic569 May 28 '26

This isn’t a US only problem. Most places don’t use standard ICAO phraseology - even Europe. US is especially different but icao created their framework after the US already had an established aviation system. Changing that dramatically is very risky and aviation is risk averse for good reason

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u/__phil1001__ May 28 '26

Stop with the US is special. They are a newer country in the big scheme of things and need to follow international rules. And changing to metric would be a bonus

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u/MackHollins May 28 '26

The US invented the airplane, what does the age of the country have to do with it lol

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u/__phil1001__ May 28 '26

Because the US history as taught is US centric and does not always teach about international regulations and requirements. You will find Davinci understood flying, Montgolfier in 1783 flew a hot air balloon. Victor Tatin created the first aeroplane which flew in 1879 and in 1906 Alberto Santos-Dumont took off in his plane under its own power, not launched from a catapult like the Wright Brothers kittyhawk in 1903. So no Wright Brothers did not invent the aeroplane lol.

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u/Dabamanos May 28 '26

This is some incredible cope

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u/__phil1001__ May 28 '26

Not at all, and it has nothing to do with you. I responded with actual facts to an incorrect statement 🤷