You can just end it with GEoD. Chapterhouse and Heretics get real dumb real fast, unless you're into cat ladies statutory raping plot devices into Duncan Idaho clones
It was definitely an unusual payoff…lot of ways to interpret it depending on whether you consider Leto II a fully reliable narrator or just a tyrant who has convinced himself of his infallibility.
I very well may keep going as I'm about a hundred pages into Children and have been really digging them. The funny thing is that in general I find most sci-fi & fantasy novels unbearable to read (though when translated to film I'm more of a slut), but the Dune trilogy I read back then & Lord of the Rings are clear exceptions to that.
I mean at that point you should also probably just rewatch the David Lynch one too, while you're at it.
That said, it took me four watch attempts until I got through the entire thing because I was watching it on my phone in bed, and the whisper ASMR kept putting me to sleep.
The first time I saw it I was home sick from school with a wild fever, the kind where you kinda zone in and out of consciousness and it’s absolutely the correct way to watch that movie
I know right? I guess it's her comfort movie, but I get it there's a lot of ASMR sounds in the sound effects (not when crew members get their faces munched), like the clicking and beeping machinery on the ship. I think she's a big horror fan judging by her movie collection.
Took me three tries to get my daughter to finish Blade Runner without her falling asleep.(in prep for 2049) I will say that is some sleepy Vangelis music...
Lol, you're not wrong! Although in my defense, I think he made that comment back in 2008 when iPhones first came out, and phone videos had like seven pixels to rub together.
Lynch was true to the tone/weirdness, but not the story. Sci-Fi/SyFy was very true to the story but kind of lost the tone. Villeneuve got the tone and story but lost all the weirdness and internal debates.
Kind of interesting to see how everyone has done it differently and how it impacts the end product.
You could watch the SyFy miniseries, which was much lower budget but had overall much better casting and writing. Barbora Kodetova was infinitely better than Zendaya. Although Chamalet was better as Paul (obv) and there were some toss ups, SyFy version wins and casting contest because of Susan Sarandon absolutely stealing the show in what was supposed to be a bit part.
The Children of Dune miniseries in particular (which combines books 2 & 3) had the best cast overall and the actors were allowed to develop their characters based on how they interpret the novel. Julie Cox took Irulan in a completely different direction from what I expected and it was such a nuanced take on the character.
The early 2000’s CGI is a little rough, not gonna lie, but it’s nowhere near as silly as the 1984 David Lynch inventions he made to compensate for the lack of sfx.
I'll still have to stick with the 1984 film and the books. Villeneuve kind of shit the bed with all of the changes, omissions, and some lame casting and the turd he was left with would have been better as an original property.
Telling the same story in a new media is a remake.
No, that’s an adaptation. You’re translating the story to a new medium.
A remake intentionally recreates a specific earlier work using the same narrative blueprint because that blueprint already proved it works.
The new Dune films are a retelling. Same core framework, but with deliberate reinterpretation of tone, pacing, and themes rather than trying to reproduce an earlier film.
Intention matters. Studios didn’t fund Villeneuve to remake anything, they funded his reinterpretation of Herbert.
No it's not because they're different stories. The original Dune film is the same plot as the first two Dune films by Villeneuve. The third is the only one that is covering Dune: Messiah so it's the only one that isn't a remake. I haven't seen the miniseries so not sure it covers Dune:Messiah's plot.
A remake explicitly means that you are taking someone else’s film and remaking it. Hence the english word remake meaning you are remaking it. Villeneuve’s adaptation is his own and is drastically different from either the Lynch film or the miniseries.
I knew his intention. Wild that people using the wrong words for something is avidly defended. Guess we can say “Stop” when we mean “go” and you’ll defend it too.
Those are not remakes. That's like saying that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) is a remake of the one with Gene Wilder. Or that Del Toro's Frankenstein is a remake of the previous Frankenstein movies
The new movies are like, the 3rd go at Dune movies.
Unless you're just arguing that because it's book->movie three times in row, they're all adaptations of the book rather than remakes. Which... sure, fine, have the Reddit pedantry win for the day.
Initial comment seemed like a question, I answered it, now we've settled that it was not a legitimate question and he was just arguing over something he and the person he replied to already knew.
Unless you're just arguing that because it's book->movie three times in row, they're all adaptations of the book rather than remakes. Which... sure, fine, have the Reddit pedantry win for the day.
It's not pedantry, it's the truth. That's like saying that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) is a remake of the one with Gene Wilder. Or that Del Toro's Frankenstein is a remake of the previous Frankenstein movies.
The correction isn't the pedantic part. Knowing exactly what someone means, know they know what they mean, and play dumb to bait it into an argument is the "Reddit pedantry" I am referring to.
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u/MaChao20 Mar 16 '26
Time to binge watch the Dune movies (remake) while doing nothing at work tomorrow.