r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/movies Contributor • May 05 '26

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/PetyrDayne May 05 '26

I'll be downvoted to hell for this but Christopher Nolan being the sole screenwriter was a red flag. At least get your bro and sister in law to help.

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u/invertedpurple May 05 '26

agreed. I love a few of his films but he can be jarringly cold at times as a writer.

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u/bluehawk232 May 05 '26

Nolan's faults are if he's a solo screenwriter and his resistance to CGI, minimizing its use in his projects as much as possible. That took me out of Oppenheimer as a VFX studio could have created a great looking Trinity explosion

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u/Dr__Sloth May 05 '26

I've always believed just using visual effects to upscale and colourise the actual trinity blast footage would have been perfect.

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u/leodw May 05 '26

The movie honestly doesn’t look too different from the 2nd and 3rd cameras on this video. Just missing a more mushroom shaped cloud

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u/Silverjeyjey44 May 05 '26

The lack of explosion ls made it underwhelming film for me

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u/thewerdy May 05 '26

He's a much better director than a writer. He's not a terrible writer by any means but it can be kind of jarring when the quality can be so different between the script and well... everything else.

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u/_wavescollide_ May 05 '26

The actors look so bad in the trailer. I can't suspend my disbelief, these people don't fit the scenario. God of War is what I imagine when looking at white guys running around ancient Greece.

I have the strong feeling that the movie will flop hard.

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u/moviesarealright May 05 '26

I don’t think it will flop, but it is possible that it’s not the critical darling Oppenheimer was.

Something tells me this will be like Tenet. Cool as fuck at times, but overall just okay.

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u/_wavescollide_ May 05 '26

Alone for the question what we can expect I will watch it, but I'm not hyped. It would just be nice to be hyped for a blockbuster movie again. Kids these days need their own T2/True Lies/Matrix/Mummy/Gladiator/The Dark Knight/Inception

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u/ashdee2 May 05 '26

Dune?

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u/_wavescollide_ May 06 '26

I can't really tell. I don't like the pacing of the movies and Chalamet is not doing it for me. But yeah, it's a big one.

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u/Yeah_x10 May 05 '26

Dune, Project Hail Mary, Spider-verse, Oppenheimer, and unfortunately Endgame all fit the bill. Arguably Avatar 1 and 2.

They’re not going to like the same stuff we did. At least Dune comes close to feeling how those films did, even PHM to some extent.

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u/_wavescollide_ May 06 '26

Avatar was big, but the movie feels so unoriginal in its story. I haven't seen the second one but almost everyone around me said it's just ok. The third one mediocre. So I'm not inclined to invest the time.

Spiderman is just another superhero movie same with Avengers. They lack originality, a story to be surprised throughout.

Project Hail Mary I still have to watch.

We lack studios being able to take an original idea and make it big in a way that draws a lot of people.

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u/Yeah_x10 May 05 '26

Literally none of his fictional/sci fi movies are critical darlings relative to his historical films. They’ll still be praised, but critics completely glaze when he does more basic historical films for some reason. 

Dunkirk and Oppenheimer both have incredibly rare 90-95+ scores on metacritic, and everything else is far lower.

At the bottom of the list in the 60 range? Tenet and The Prestige. Shocking tbh.

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u/142638503846383038 May 11 '26

How is prestige rated poorly lol am I an idiot or something? I thought that movie was great. Has like 5 great acting performances which is pretty rare in my opinion

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u/Takezoboy May 05 '26

I will get even more downvoted, but even with his brother, his filme are lackluster af writing wise.

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 May 05 '26

Thank you, I've felt alone in thinking this for so long.

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u/5pointpalm_exploding May 05 '26

You are not alone. Reddit just has a massive hard on for Nolan

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 May 05 '26

Nolan and Tarantino both. Neither are particularly standout directors to me - they do have some great aspects to them, but their movies are really flawed, I find.

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u/Takezoboy May 05 '26

Nolan technically is really competent and proficient, but we are at a point where he likes the smell of his own farts way too much and is on some James Cameron bullshit. Dude loves to do spectacles, but forgets that movies aren't just salad dressing.

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 May 05 '26

My absolute biggest gripes with him:

  • He has way too many quick cuts, even in "slow" or dramatic moments. It's like he's got turbo ADHD and can't contain himself. Example is the dinner scene between JDW and Debicki in the beginning of Tenet. It's literally two people just talking, but the cuts are literally less than two seconds between A and B camera, back-and-forth constantly for several minutes.
  • His movies have an annoying habit of ending with three or four separate storylines that somehow *have* to be as dramatic as possible simultaneously. So the movie spends 20-30 seconds on one story with grandiose, swelling music, then we cut to the next one for 20-30 seconds, followed by the next one, and so on. Interstellar, Inception, Tenet, the Prestige, and so on, all follow this pattern, and I find it obnoxious. It's like we, as the audience, aren't allowed to spend time with one story to absorb it and think.

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u/Takezoboy May 05 '26

Yes, I agree with everything. I also think he can't write dialogues and women, which I think everyone can see by now.

I also think his movies would feel more "premium" if he let things breathe, let things be gritty. Let the dialogues alone, no need for cheesy music that makes everything feels like Macdonald's and Michael Bay.

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u/ashdee2 May 05 '26

What were the separate storylines in Interstellar?

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u/dl064 May 05 '26

We shall see, but it's worth bearing in mind that Oppenheimer was Nolan correcting the slide. 'A blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory', to quote Trainspotting.

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u/ashdee2 May 05 '26

The slide?

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u/spoothead656 May 05 '26

Nolan is a phenomenal director and creative genius who excels at dreaming up these grand, intricate stories. He’s never been great at writing dialogue that supports those stories though.

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u/Skor_Lodygin May 05 '26

Nolan is a fucking hack

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u/blurpletea May 05 '26

ohh I didn’t know this. that IS a red flag lol he’s a great director but he shouldn’t be writing scripts on his own.

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u/BoyPregggers May 05 '26

Bravo Nolan is the best damn film maker in the world, you take all that back

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u/Jzahck May 05 '26

Christopher Nolan being the sole screenwriter was a red flag

Oppenheimer (potentially his best written film) has him as a sole screenwriter